Originally posted by RamnedYou'll use it after a bit... you'll start to realize you know exactly what the guy is doing next, and you punch in the next move.
Well, it seems somewhat like rushing if you use them in the middle game, but as long as you don't have to use them
If they don't do that, you just think of the new move.
You'd be surprised how many times you make an exchange and there is only one logical answer to your move.
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Has anyone considered how a conditional move system will interact with the in-game messages?
Let's say white plays Qd5+ forcing Ke8, and uses the conditional move system to queue a follow-up Re1+ forcing Kf8. In normal play, black might send a message with his Ke8 move and another with his Kf8 move.
If this is implemented badly, the first message will never be seen by white. It will go straight into the "message history".
Either black must be warned about the conditional move, so that he doesn't bother to send a message when playing Ke8; or white should be alerted to both of black's messages.
Originally posted by John of ReadingWell noted.
Has anyone considered how a conditional move system will interact with the in-game messages?
Let's say white plays Qd5+ forcing Ke8, and uses the conditional move system to queue a follow-up Re1+ forcing Kf8. In normal play, black might send a message with his Ke8 move and another with his Kf8 move.
If this is implemented badly, the first messa ...[text shortened]... to send a message when playing Ke8; or white should be alerted to both of black's messages.
Originally posted by John of ReadingHow about a "speaking balloon" icon next to your game. This would show there was a message written that you didn't see.
Has anyone considered how a conditional move system will interact with the in-game messages?
Let's say white plays Qd5+ forcing Ke8, and uses the conditional move system to queue a follow-up Re1+ forcing Kf8. In normal play, black might send a message with his Ke8 move and another with his Kf8 move.
If this is implemented badly, the first messa ...[text shortened]... to send a message when playing Ke8; or white should be alerted to both of black's messages.
There should also be a "Move Made" icon, so you know the other player moved, and your conditional move was made.
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Originally posted by John of ReadingYeah, I have given this some thought too, and my provisional plans were to just carry any messages forward and hope a nicer solution presents itself during implementation. Me, a hacker? Nooooo....
Has anyone considered how a conditional move system will interact with the in-game messages?
Let's say white plays Qd5+ forcing Ke8, and uses the conditional move system to queue a follow-up Re1+ forcing Kf8. In normal play, black might send a message with his Ke8 move and another with his Kf8 move.
If this is implemented badly, the first messa to send a message when playing Ke8; or white should be alerted to both of black's messages.
It is funny this did come up though, because I have a design which is both powerful and inexpensive (server resources) for conditional moves, and this message issue is the one thing I am not clear on yet.
-Russ
Originally posted by RussA simple solution for now, maybe: when my "black" sends a message with his Ke8 move, don't fire the conditional move after all. Most of the time there will be no message and the feature will be useful.
...and this message issue is the one thing I am not clear on yet.
Also the conditional move mustn't take effect if black were to offer a draw, but you'll have thought of that already...
Originally posted by John of ReadingMaybe there could be a note next to the message saying "click here for opponent's move" and after reading the message, they could click and move on to the move and the game.
A simple solution for now, maybe: when my "black" sends a message with his Ke8 move, don't fire the conditional move after all. Most of the time there will be no message and the feature will be useful.
Also the conditional move mustn't take effect if black were to offer a draw, but you'll have thought of that already...
Just an idea.
Originally posted by John of ReadingOr, you could have a system for specifying, when entering a conditional move, what to do if your opponent offers a draw: accept, decline and play the conditional move, or do neither, so you can consider your decision after receiving the offer.
Also the conditional move mustn't take effect if black were to offer a draw, but you'll have thought of that already...
Have you thought about the conditional move interface?
I brought up a couple of months back. Here's my idea.
Using a friendly GUI interface - you could set consecutive PGN style lines with the user allowed to set as many as they want.
E.g. You are playing as back and your opponent plays 1.e4
so you play 1...e6 and along with your real-time move you submit the following conditional moves:
2.d4 d5 3. Nf3 Bg4
2. d4 d5 3. e5 c5
2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 c5
2. d4 d5 3. Nf3 Bg4 4. e5 c5
2. d4 d5 3. Qe2 resign
etc. etc.