Originally posted by apathistNow that is irrelevant because that is not what I said.
You said that "The killing of people is only good, if the resulting good is greater than the bad that will result from not taking such action. An example is WW2."
I made the point that the lesser of two evils doesn't become a good thing merely because it isn't as bad.
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Originally posted by apathistThe quote is what I said, however, I was referring to what you said is irrelevant because what you said is not the same as what I said. You remind me of one of my sons, who you had to say everything perfectly before he could understand the meaning of what you meant.
It was your exact quote, cut and pasted.
Your credibility takes nose-diving to new heights. 🙂
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Originally posted by RJHindsWould you like to edit that word salad so that it makes sense?
The quote is what I said, however, I was referring to what you said is irrelevant because what you said is not the same as what I said. You remind me of one of my sons, who you had to say everything perfectly before he could understand the meaning of what you meant.
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I say don't.
it's pretty much perfect as it is.
Originally posted by apathistit is incredible how each individual on this forum thinks HE/SHE is the one to finally expose rjhinds as a fool. it baffles me why do you people keep talking with him, or should i say AT him, instead of having infinitely more intelligent discussions among yourselves.
It was your exact quote, cut and pasted.
Your credibility takes nose-diving to new heights. 🙂
Originally posted by sonhouseBut what about the part of the story about how much God loves you?
So this REALLY stupid god decides these few thousand humans who tick him off because they refuse to massage his flagging ego daily, it causes a flood and incidentally kills BILLIONS of animals just to get back at those nasty humans.
Sure, it could happen. NOT.
Then this god says humans are BORN into sin.
This is some god you have, Corky.
You a ...[text shortened]... beat your women, after all, they are only worth about 60 percent of a man, worthless bitches.
Can you tell us about that?
Originally posted by josephwYou mean the part where he/she/it loves us so much it let billions of animals die in your so-called flood to off a few humans? Or the hundreds of millions of people who died by war and disease over the last thousand years? THAT god of love? More like the dog of hate.
But what about the part of the story about how much God loves you?
Can you tell us about that?
Originally posted by sonhouseYou do know how ridiculous it sounds to hear you bad mouth a being you deny exists don't you?
You mean the part where he/she/it loves us so much it let billions of animals die in your so-called flood to off a few humans? Or the hundreds of millions of people who died by war and disease over the last thousand years? THAT god of love? More like the dog of hate.
Of course I realize the irony you intend to convey. Why would a God who claims to not only love us, and is in fact "Love" Himself, also be the author of destruction and death to billions on a global scale?
If such a God exists, then there is a reason why don't you think? Or do you think the contradiction in terms to great to reconcile?
Just how open a mind do you believe you have?
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Originally posted by josephwIt's not ridiculous to criticise the being YOU believe exists based on the descriptions of it
You do know how ridiculous it sounds to hear you bad mouth a being you deny exists don't you?
Of course I realize the irony you intend to convey. Why would a God who claims to not only love us, and is in fact "Love" Himself, also be the author of destruction and death to billions on a global scale?
If such a God exists, then there is a reason why don' ...[text shortened]... ntradiction in terms to great to reconcile?
Just how open a mind do you believe you have?
in YOUR holy book.
And no, there is no possible justification for a being as powerful as your god is described
as being for creating a universe with this much suffering in it.
At least no justification that is compatible with any being that can be described as loving.
Originally posted by josephwYou said it. IF there is a god there would be a reason for all that killing. I don't care to know such a god if that is how it thinks.
You do know how ridiculous it sounds to hear you bad mouth a being you deny exists don't you?
Of course I realize the irony you intend to convey. Why would a God who claims to not only love us, and is in fact "Love" Himself, also be the author of destruction and death to billions on a global scale?
If such a God exists, then there is a reason why don' ...[text shortened]... ntradiction in terms to great to reconcile?
Just how open a mind do you believe you have?
Hey, I can't say there is no god, it's a big universe and maybe an infinite number of universes to boot and we are just too small right now to say yea or nay about a god.
I can say with utter confidence however, that the bible god is total nonsense, just a god made in man's image. The really sad part is how many people get killed over this imaginary god.
When the human race throws off the shackles of religion they can start to mature as a race but till then, religious war remains the only visible aspect of religion.
Sure there are the few do-gooders who actually help people but why have to refer to an imaginary god to do good?
When I do good it is because some helpless person needs help. End of story. No litany about going to heaven, no trying to get the person who was helped to be part of my congregation.
Just help them if they need help. Forget any heavenly gains you think you might be in the way for when you die.
People should live for today and tomorrow and forget about utopias and golden rainbows and hosanna's. The world and the universe around us is golden enough as it is and we should be spending our energy saving our planet not destroying it wallowing in greed. Which of course has nothing to do with religion.
The main point I am making is no god is going to come down and save our sorry asses if we off ourselves in some kind of nuclear war or climactic disaster, causing the next ice age or the opposite.
We are in it by ourselves and that is the fact of the matter.
Originally posted by googlefudge"At least no justification that is compatible with any being that can be described as loving."
It's not ridiculous to criticise the being YOU believe exists based on the descriptions of it
in YOUR holy book.
And no, there is no possible justification for a being as powerful as your god is described
as being for creating a universe with this much suffering in it.
At least no justification that is compatible with any being that can be described as loving.
Such as yourself perhaps?
Apparently you only choose the parts of the story that suits your personal perspective. Have you ever considered the possibility that God has done righteously and you and the rest of us have done evil, and deserve to be punished for our own sin?
YOU ARE IN DENIAL. Your choice.
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Originally posted by josephwNo I do not "consider the possibility" that we have all done evil and deserved to be
[b]"At least no justification that is compatible with any being that can be described as loving."
Such as yourself perhaps?
Apparently you only choose the parts of the story that suits your personal perspective. Have you ever considered the possibility that God has done righteously and you and the rest of us have done evil, and deserve to be punished for our own sin?
YOU ARE IN DENIAL. Your choice.[/b]
punished you despicable piece of...
The idea of original sin is repulsive and stupid.
Nobody is responsible for what their ancestors have done. Period.
In the bible god commits and incites genocide multiple times.
If you think that can every be justified you are so far far away from having morals it's
not funny.
There is no part of the bible at all that paints your god in a good light.
Originally posted by googlefudgeYou are in denial.
No I do not "consider the possibility" that we have all done evil and deserved to be
punished you despicable piece of...
The idea of original sin is repulsive and stupid.
Nobody is responsible for what their ancestors have done. Period.
In the bible god commits and incites genocide multiple times.
If you think that can every be justified you ...[text shortened]...
not funny.
There is no part of the bible at all that paints your god in a good light.
The reason for your vitriol is due to the fact that you know God has your number. The Word of God has you pegged for what you(and I)are and that's what has you pissed off.
You are immature in every possible way.
Originally posted by josephwNever had to critique a fictional character in a novel?
You do know how ridiculous it sounds to hear you bad mouth a being you deny exists don't you?
I have 6 year-olds arguing for and against Jack in "Jack and the Beanstalk"
luckily they do not see it ridiculous to bad-mouth a character they know
doesn't exist.