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Originally posted by galveston75
There are two different resurrections. One to heaven and the general resurrection for humans on earth.
No one Jesus resurrected went to heaven but were resurrected back here on the earth where we are from just as God designed for us to be.
The other resurrection is only for the chosen ones (144,000) ( little flock ) who go to heaven to rule with Jes ...[text shortened]... umans here on earth.
Can you show me by scripture anything different or that this is not true?
22 I saw no [q]temple in it, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its [r]temple. 23 And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God has illumined it, and its lamp is the Lamb. 24 The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth [s]will bring their glory into it. 25 In the daytime (for there will be no night there) its gates will never be closed; 26 and they will bring the glory and the honor of the nations into it; 27 and nothing unclean, and no one who practices abomination and lying, shall ever come into it, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

Proof the Lamb and God almighty will be in the new Jerusalem on the new earth

Manny

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Yes I know a huge city but this will be in the new Heaven and earth

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Originally posted by menace71
22 I saw no [q]temple in it, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its [r]temple. 23 And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God has illumined it, and its lamp is the Lamb. 24 The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth [s]will bring their glory into it. 25 In the daytime (for there wil ...[text shortened]... new earth

Manny

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Yes I know a huge city but this will be in the new Heaven and earth
Perhaps galveston75 is referring to the thousand year reign of Christ on Earth while Satan is bound.

Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.

And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.


(Revelation 20:1-6 NKJV)

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Originally posted by menace71
22 I saw no [q]temple in it, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its [r]temple. 23 And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God has illumined it, and its lamp is the Lamb. 24 The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth [s]will bring their glory into it. 25 In the daytime (for there wil ...[text shortened]... new earth

Manny

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Yes I know a huge city but this will be in the new Heaven and earth
It's affect and rule with be over the earth, not physically down on the planet. It just won't fit....

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Perhaps galveston75 is referring to the thousand year reign of Christ on Earth while Satan is bound.

Then I saw an angel co... (edit) ...the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

(Revelation 20:1-6 NKJV)

The Instructor[/b]
I am asking this question only because I don't know. Is 1914 for the JW when the 1000 year reign began? This is when Jesus returned in spirit for them, no?

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Originally posted by kd2acz
I am asking this question only because I don't know. Is 1914 for the JW when the 1000 year reign began? This is when Jesus returned in spirit for them, no?
It's ok to ask a JW as it's our belief not his....

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Originally posted by galveston75
It's ok to ask a JW as it's our belief not his....
Ok, is it?

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Originally posted by kd2acz
Ok, is it?
Lets let the Bible answer:

Says the apostle John: “I saw an angel Jesus, coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. And he hurled him into the abyss and shut it and sealed it over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended.” (Revelation 20:1-3; 12:12)

So this says the thousand year period starts when Jesus abysses the chained up satan. This has not happened yet as satan is still loose here in the vicinity of the earth causing us all kinds of problems.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Lets let the Bible answer:

Says the apostle John: “I saw an angel Jesus, coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. And he hurled him into the abyss and shut it and sealed it over him, that he might n ...[text shortened]... till loose here in the vicinity of the earth causing us all kinds of problems.


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YOU ADDED the word JESUS to the text and you should know that you should not add to the proohecy of the Book of Revelation. The following is the actual translation of the text:

Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3 and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.[b]

(Revelation 20:1-3 NKJV)

Here is what will happen to those that add to the prophecy of the book of Revelation:

[b]For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;


(Revelation 22:18 NKJV)

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Originally posted by RJHinds
YOU ADDED the word JESUS to the text and you should know that you should not add to the proohecy of the Book of Revelation. The following is the actual translation of the text:

[b]Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the D ...[text shortened]... s, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;


(Revelation 22:18 NKJV)[/b]
Are you really serious? Do you not know or understand that Jesus is this angel?

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Originally posted by galveston75
Lets let the Bible answer:

Says the apostle John: “I saw an angel Jesus, coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. And he hurled him into the abyss and shut it and sealed it over him, that he might n ...[text shortened]... yet as satan is still loose here in the vicinity of the earth causing us all kinds of problems.
What is the significance of 1914 then?

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Originally posted by galveston75
Are you really serious? Do you not know or understand that Jesus is this angel?
If you believe that Jesus is that angel, Galveston, it is still not the right thing to change the wording of the bible to suit your interpretation.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Are you really serious? Do you not know or understand that Jesus is this angel?
He's right Galveston, you said "let's let the bible answer". even in th NWT it does not mention Jesus in these verses. Why add it, just wondering?

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Originally posted by kd2acz
He's right Galveston, you said "let's let the bible answer". even in th NWT it does not mention Jesus in these verses. Why add it, just wondering?
Sorry to all but I just asumed everyone knew that....

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Originally posted by galveston75
Sorry to all but I just asumed everyone knew that....
No problem.

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Originally posted by kd2acz
No problem.
I sent you a PM on that subject. To many here don't like me to past. 🙁