Originally posted by daniel58I care because many people I know have fallen under the sway of christianity. This affects their thinking on other issues. For example, some use the faith to justify bigotry against gays. "God said it" functions as an excuse to forgo critical thinking. This kind of stuff needs to be countered.
Sorry, So if you don't believe in hell why do you care?
I'm actually not a bigot towards gays, I just don't think they should be able to "marry." I love the person, not the action. You're stereotyping Christians as blind chickens who see a different colored chick in the group and peck at it till it's dead. Not all Christians are like that (granted, some are, but they aren't being Christian in doing so) When the Lord saw the adulterous woman, he loved her as the sister in heaven she was, and forgave her the sin, but commanded her to sin no more. He did not condone the sin, but still loved the person.
Originally posted by LinkHyruleThat's what happened in our family, my mom had a miscarriage, got the baby baptized, think you say "If you are able to be baptized". If that helps.
Kay, forget what I said before, if you need to, but what do you think about baptism for the dead? What happened to that practice? 1 Cor 15:29
Originally posted by SwissGambitSo you are gay?
I care because many people I know have fallen under the sway of christianity. This affects their thinking on other issues. For example, some use the faith to justify bigotry against gays. "God said it" functions as an excuse to forgo critical thinking. This kind of stuff needs to be countered.
Originally posted by LinkHyruleThat's what Limbo is for, of course we all want them to go to Heaven and to make sure of that we baptize them.
Why do sinless babies need to be baptized? To fulfill all righteousness? Christ already did that. I'm sorry, but I don't believe Christ would go along with a plan that made sinless babies go to hell for no reason.
We don't call it Limbo, it's Spirit Paradise, vs Spirit Prison ( 1 Pet 3:19) , and those who are in spirit prison are those who have not been baptised, or who have, and have fallen away. Children younger than the age of eight are however, without sin, and therefore, need no baptism. Otherwise, a lot of little kids are going to hell for absolutely no reason other than that the Lord took them home before they really understood what they were doing. Could a perfect God do such a thing?
Originally posted by LinkHyruleI didn't say that.
We don't call it Limbo, it's Spirit Paradise, vs Spirit Prison ( 1 Pet 3:19) , and those who are in spirit prison are those who have not been baptised, or who have, and have fallen away. Children younger than the age of eight are however, without sin, and therefore, need no baptism. Otherwise, a lot of little kids are going to hell for absolutely no reaso ...[text shortened]... home before they really understood what they were doing. Could a perfect God do such a thing?
Originally posted by daniel58Umm... then what was this all about?
That's what happened in our family, my mom had a miscarriage, got the baby baptized, think you say "If you are able to be baptized". If that helps.
Originally posted by daniel58
That's what Limbo is for, of course we all want them to go to Heaven and to make sure of that we baptize them.