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Are Christians permitted to own slaves?

Are Christians permitted to own slaves?

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Originally posted by Suzianne
I doubt it.

The only people he could "turn against God" are already against God.
Indeed it is not I who have attempted to portray the Bible in a bad light, but others, I have in fact upheld the Biblical perspective and defended it against the evil machinations of others.

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Originally posted by Suzianne
I wouldn't mind saddling them with the same punishment that the guilty people they get off would have received.
How do you decide which people are guilty?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Indeed it is not I who have attempted to portray the Bible in a bad light, but others, I have in fact upheld the Biblical perspective.
But you are studiously avoiding giving any explanation of the moral basis of the institution of slavery. Or where the Biblical law governing it is laid out. Why is that?

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Originally posted by FMF
What are the "nits" you are referring to? Who has been using "twisted logic" on this thread?
Please. It's your own "standard currency".

Your MO is always the same. And frankly, I'm getting tired of reading it, thread after thread after thread.

Edit: Maybe you should read up on game theory and the importance of the "meta-game". You're doing yourself a disservice.

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Originally posted by Suzianne
Please. It's your own "standard currency".

Your MO is always the same. And frankly, I'm getting tired of reading it, thread after thread after thread.
I know its totally banal. Such a tiresome bore.

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Originally posted by Suzianne
Please. It's your own "standard currency".

Your MO is always the same. And frankly, I'm getting tired of reading it, thread after thread after thread.

Edit: Maybe you should read up on game theory and the importance of the "meta-game". You're doing yourself a disservice.
The discussion here is about whether Christians have a God given right to own slaves. What are the "nits" you are referring to?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
lets see how honest you are think of one or is that a rafter protruding from your eye?

have you ever sinned?
Either
Either back up your accusation or admit that you falsely accused me. Why not show this forum that you're capable of some semblance of integrity? Would it really be such a terrible thing if you did?

Once again:

Like I said:

[quote]Show where I lied. You made an accusation. If you can't support it, then your accusation is false.


All you've done thus far amounts to reiterating your accusation. Show how it is a lie. You made the accusation. So now back it up.[/quote]

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Are you saying that Philemon was not a serous Christian, yet Paul describes him as a beloved brother and a Bible book bears his name, sorry , i find that unacceptable. Peter infact admonishes slaves to render to their master a proper days service! Is Peter also not a very serious Christian?

(1 Peter 2:18-20) Let house servants be in subjection t ...[text shortened]... t if, when you are doing good and you suffer, you endure it, this is a thing agreeable with God.
Did Christ have slaves?

Well, did he?

I think that alone should tell you all you need to know.

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Originally posted by FMF
The discussion here is about whether Christians have a God given right to own slaves. What are the "nits" you are referring to?
No. Not falling for your brand of disrespect. It's happened before. Not again.

Better hurry and go read up on the "meta-game" so maybe (just maybe) you can figure out what I'm on about.

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Originally posted by Suzianne
Did Christ have slaves?

Well, did he?

I think that alone should tell you all you need to know.
whut? Christ said not a thing against slavery as a social institution and he never had an xbox360 either, so by your logic, neither should any Christians have an xbox360,

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Originally posted by Suzianne
No. Not falling for your brand of disrespect. It's happened before. Not again.

Better hurry and go read up on the "meta-game" so maybe (just maybe) you can figure out what I'm on about.
Pressing robbie to give his explanation of the moral basis for the institution of slavery that he claims there is. Or where the Biblical law governing slavery is laid out. This is not "disrespect". It's a discussion. It's a debate.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
its a different system, the former being based in mandates, the latter on the exercise of conscience. Principles still apply, but the Law was no longer practised.
Again:

So you accept that the moral guidance given in the 'divinely inspired' OT is different from that given in the 'divinely inspired' NT?

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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Either
Either back up your accusation or admit that you falsely accused me. Why not show this forum that you're capable of some semblance of integrity? Would it really be such a terrible thing if you did?

Once again:

Like I said:

[quote]Show where I lied. You made an accusation. If you can't support it, then your accusation is false. [/ ...[text shortened]... ng your accusation. Show how it is a lie. You made the accusation. So now back it up.
I have produced your lie, no more attention for you.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
whut? Christ said not a thing against slavery as a social institution and he never had an xbox360 either, so by your logic, neither should any Christians have an xbox360,
Christ "not [saying] a thing against slavery" does not constitute a moral basis for the institution of slavery.

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Originally posted by Suzianne
You also forget that the Bible was also applied as a history book. Slavery was widespread across the earth in those days, most slaves were taken as "spoils of war". For one people to stand up against slavery during a time when it was a common practice worldwide would make them targets worldwide. Jews already had enough on their plate without giving them ...[text shortened]... member that logic fails in the face of reality. Logic says bumblebees cannot fly, either.
My God is not evil. And my holy book proves that. Your "proof" that God is evil simply does not stand.

It is clear that the God of the OT condones slavery. If you believe that slavery is evil, what does that say about a God that condones slavery?

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