Atheists vs Agnostics

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Now you sound like FMF. You seem to be thriving under his tutelage.

Originally posted by @fmf
Who was kicked out of the Debate Forum?

Yes. Who?

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And here it is again. Anyone who disagrees with you is "intellectually dishonest". FMF used this description once and you've adopted it as your own. The way you two back each other up regardless of what daft notion you're promoting is what is "intellectually dishonest".

Originally posted by @eladar
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Accept it.

I do recognize that you are honest.

Originally posted by @suzianne
Anyone who disagrees with you is "intellectually dishonest".

Disagreeing and being intellectually dishonest are absolutely not synonymous, which is what you seem to be suggesting.

Originally posted by @suzianne
The way you two back each other up regardless of what daft notion you're promoting is what is "intellectually dishonest".

I'm not sure you understand what "intellectually dishonest" means. If you really think I have deliberately applied standards of rational evaluation - that I am aware of - and I've done so in a deceitful way, then tell me which post it was and I will address your accusation.

Originally posted by @fmf
I'm not sure you understand what "intellectually dishonest" means. If you really think I have deliberately applied standards of rational evaluation - that I am aware of - and I've done so in a deceitful way, then tell me which post it was and I will address your accusation.

If your standards of rational evaluation are purely subjective why are you applying them to everyone else as if they are objective?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
If your standards of rational evaluation are purely subjective why are you applying them to everyone else as if they are objective?

In the matters we all discuss here, all the standards of evaluation we employ and scrutinize are subjective. As you well know, I don't make any claim that my opinions about spiritual and moral matters are objective. We are not discussing a subject like mathematics. We are discussing our conjecture about the possible existence of supernatural phenomena, the nature of the human condition and things like morality.

Originally posted by @fmf
In the matters we all discuss here, all the standards of evaluation we employ and scrutinize are subjective. As you well know, I don't make any claim that my opinions about spiritual and moral matters are objective. We are not discussing a subject like mathematics. We are discussing our conjecture about the possible existence of supernatural phenomena, the nature of the human condition and things like morality.

Would you agree that your claim that someone is being intellectually dishonest is purely subjective?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Would you agree that your claim that someone is being intellectually dishonest is purely subjective?

What else would it be?

You accused me of being intellectually dishonest yesterday; did you really think you were being objective?

Originally posted by @fmf
What else would it be?

You accused me of being intellectually dishonest yesterday; did you really think you were being objective?

I think it is it true that someone who refuses to read something because they fear it could change their perspective is being intellectually dishonest.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
I think it is it true that someone who refuses to read something because they fear it could change their perspective is being intellectually dishonest.

What "fear"?

Originally posted by @fmf
What "fear"?

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/fear

Originally posted by @dj2becker
I think it is it true that someone who refuses to read something because they fear it could change their perspective is being intellectually dishonest.

There is no "fear". Don't get yourself all puffed up. Did you not read any of my posts about your copy paste on the other thread?