Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeIf Mr. Z is able to say that he has no opinion about the nature of truth and reality then Mr. Z would be an Agnostic.
Sorry can't hear you. (Due to your own head being in the sand).
Our friend, Mr Z, says it is impossible to know if God exists or not and remains uncertain. So what is he if not an agnostic?!? Atheist?.....No. Mr Z is perfectly open to the idea that God exists. Theist then?....No. Mr Z is perfectly open to the conclusion that God doesn't exist.
Mr Z is an agnostic. Deal with it.
Until then this Mr Z is just an atheist who believes he could be wrong.
Originally posted by @eladarYou appear to be under the illusion that an agnostic is someone without an opinion.
If Mr. Z is able to say that he has no opinion about the nature of truth and reality then Mr. Z would be an Agnostic.
Until then this Mr Z is just an atheist who believes he could be wrong.
How quaint.
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeWithout an opinion on the existence of God.
You appear to be under the illusion that an agnostic is someone without an opinion.
How quaint.
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Originally posted by @kellyjayIf you cannot prove the existence of God, where does your faith come from? Why believe in something for no reason? Does your faith perhaps come from conditioning, indoctrination or social expectation? If so, it is bogus. Do you look at the world and think 'how can this beautifully designed world possibly have come into existence without a Prime Cause? If so, you ignore Darwin and evolution. Please explain why you have faith and where this faith springs from. I do not undstand. I am a simple person, though wise enough to see more than black and white.
Actually I disagree, only blind faith would reject reasoning. All things that we hold true we do with cause and cause has a reason. Simply because I cannot prove something doesn’t mean I can’t believe it to be true, and as important simply because we believe our reasons are truthful doesn’t mean that they are. This brings us back to faith which sole existence doesn’t just revolve around God.
Originally posted by @kellyjayIn my own life experience, I have been given proof which proves the point to me beyond a reasonable doubt, but this is no proof for others. Faith cannot be a proof to those who have no such faith. But I know my faith is true.
Its all about faith, so I tend to agree with you. I cannot prove what I believe, there is
always room for doubt. If I knew than it wouldn't be faith, it would be knowledge. I have in
my life had experiences that give me glimpses into what I have to say this is beyond the
natural, but they give no "proof" to others they are only part of my testimony, which again
if believed have to be taken on faith.
In this way, my faith IS my knowledge. My faith is no one else's knowledge, but it is MY knowledge. That my faith is my knowledge does not mean that I have no faith. My faith and my belief IS a fact of life to me, and also in this way, it IS knowledge. But again, it is MY knowledge, no one else's. There is always faith, and because of this faith, I have been shown, and thus have knowledge of, its truth.
But this doesn't mean others can know in this way. Not without faith. It is like trying to explain what BLUE looks like to a blind man.