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@sonship said
@Rajk999
Those who profess faith are nothing


Umm, is there by ANY chance a chapter 11 in your New Testament book of Hebrews ?

It talks about the heroes of faith.
Check and see if you have an 11th chapter to your book of Hebrews.

And read it through sometime.
These people in Hebrews 11 did a whole lot of good works and they lived righteously. You preach profess faith and do nothing.

Who in Hebrews 11 did nothing?

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@Rajk999

You preach profess faith and do nothing.


You breath lies.

I teach receive Christ by faith and go ON to live Christ by faith.

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@sonship said

I teach receive Christ by faith and go ON to live Christ by faith.
What the hell is that. That means nothing you idiot. You keep saying that meaningless nonsense. Did Jesus tell people that?

How is it your heart cannot bear to repeat the doctrine of Christ, and truthfully tell people exactly what Jesus said about all the good works which are REQUIRED FOR ETERNAL LIFE IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD...WHY???

You are Satan. You cannot say good works or righteousness otherwise you will go up in flames ... lol.

Your doctrine is total rubbish and fit for the garbage dump

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The just shall have life and live by faith.

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@sonship said
The just shall have life and live by faith.
A perfect example of your willful deceit. Leaving out the critical part of the teachings of the Christ and the Apostles.

Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. (Hebrews 10:38 KJV)

The just. - not just anybody, not those who profess faith. Just means something. It means the righteous, not the sinful
Draw back - to fall away into sin
No pleasure in him - he is doomed

It all goes right back to righteousness and good works being the critical thing.


You are deceitful. Try to he an honest preacher.

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John 10:10b—I have come that they may have life and may have it abundantly.

What is the glad tiding that God gave us? It is the bestowing of His Son to us. By His resurrection we are resurrected. Now He is living inside of us to be our life, so that we may live Him out and fulfill His demands. This is the glad tiding. The glad tiding is that God is fulfilling His own commandments inside of us! The gospel is not a set of do’s and don’ts. You do not have to crawl around the earth day and night like crabgrass, telling yourself over and over again that you are not supposed to sin. This is not a glad tiding. This is a grievous tiding. The gospel is that God is coming into us to live and obey for us. (CWWN, vol. 27, “The Normal Christian Faith,” ch. 14, p. 166)

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@sonship said
John 10:10b—I have come that they may have life and may have it abundantly.

What is the glad tiding that God gave us? It is the bestowing of His Son to us. By His resurrection we are resurrected. Now He is living inside of us to be our life, so that we may live Him out and fulfill His demands. This is the glad tiding. The glad tiding is that God is fulfilling His ...[text shortened]... oming into us to live and obey for us. (CWWN, vol. 27, “The Normal Christian Faith,” ch. 14, p. 166)
First When you are addressing me, if {maybe Im presumptuous], you want me to read it then quote the bible. I dont read any of the propaganda produced by churches.

What did Jesus say about who gets this abundant life and who gets damnation, and why do you not bother to tell people that. Is it that you want people damned?

Those who keep the commandments and good works get life. But clearly you do NOT want people to know what Christ preached, because you never repeat the words of Christ.

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@Rajk999

Those who keep the commandments and good works get life. But clearly you do NOT want people to know what Christ preached, because you never repeat the words of Christ.


" . . . because you never repeat the words of Christ."

In ten or twelve years I have posted here I "never repeat the words of Christ"?

You have lied to yourself probably to the point of needing psychiatric attention.

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@sonship said

In ten or twelve years I have posted here I "never repeat the words of Christ"?
Is your head hard? You never repeat and teach the doctrine of Christ as it pertains to eternal life. You preach instead a twisted version of Paul's teachings.

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Words of Christ:

"Truly, truly, I say to you, He who believes has eternal life.
I am the bread of life."

I quote the words of Jesus. The interpretation of some of His words you oppose.

Above Jesus taken in as "food" as "bread" even [b]"the bread of life"
means eternal life to the one who "eats" Him. That is to take IN the available, resurrected, and living Son of God. He is the reality of the type of the bread, the "manna" that God fed the Israelites with in the wilderness for 40 years.

Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died.
This is the bread which comes down out of heaven, that anyone may eat of it and not die.

I am the living bread which came down out of heaven; if anyone eats of this bread, he shall live forever." (John 6:47,49-51) [/b]

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This is God incarnated as a man. This is God eternal speaking in a man whom He has become and saying we have to believe in His incarnation.

Ie. "He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me and I in him." (v.56)

As bread is processed to become eatable so the eternal God has gone through a process including incarnation, death, and resurrection that He could be in a form in which man can take Him in.

We must internalize the incarnated God - "eat My flesh and drink My blood". Then He will come live in us and we will live in Him.

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Jesus goes on:

"As the living Father has sent Me and I live because of the Father, so he who eats Me, he also shall live because of Me." (John 6:57)

This is to have eternal life and to go on to live that life by "eating" Jesus.

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@sonship said
I read a whole bunch of your posts on another thread in another forum.

It was kind of sad.
Sad? Really?

Was it the one about how my wife so nearly died in June last year? That one? The one about hitting a rock bottom? The one about prayer?

That one?

You found that "kind of sad"?

Why didn't you say anything at the time?

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The Christian life is a great privilege. Men and women get to live as Jesus Himself lived. We get to taste the same reality of living because of God who now becomes our Father.

"As the living Father sent Me and I live because of the Father, so he who eats Me, he also shall live because of Me." (v.67)

He partook of a certain way to live.
We receive Him and learn to live in that same manner.

This is an unspeakable honor.
He paved the way. He showed the way.
He is God-man and we can become God-men.

Read it aloud one more time because faith comes by hearing.

" As the living Father has sent Me and I live because of the Father, so he who eats Me, he also shall live because of Me."

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@fmf said
You found that "kind of sad"?

Why didn't you say anything at the time?
It might have been a bit less robotic of you, sonship, if you'd said you thought that turn of events in my life was "sad" - at the time - rather than now, 376 days later.