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Biblical basis for the Trinity?

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Originally posted by galveston75
Jaywil showed no such thing...
And we show you scripture after scripture that is as plain as the nose on your face and you can't see it. I'm really beginning to believe you never will but theres always hope.
Why then did you not reply to his post and show Him the errors of his way?

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Why then did you not reply to his post and show Him the errors of his way?
Because most of his post he's repeating what he's said before and I've answered him other previous times.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Well I'd love to see those volumes of scriptures that disprove us anytime. And anti-christ also means AGAINST. You are saying we have it all wrong and all that we do is wrong. So us going door to door is must be wrong in your eyes even though Jesus clearly told us all to do that. So you're AGAINST us doing what Jesus said to do and to teach what is in the Bible. That is being an anti-christ.
The Holy Bible explains what ant-Christ means and it does not mean
against you going door to door. It does mean against Christ. That
describes the Jehovah's Witnesses Organization, who deny Jesus's
body was raised from the dead and are against giving Him the honor
as Lord and God.

1 John 2:22-23:

Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This
is the antichrist, the one that denies the Father and the Son. Whoever
denies the Son does not have the Father, the one who confesses the
Son has the Father also.

2 John 7:

For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not
acknowledge Jesus Christ is coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver
and the antichrist.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Now I know you don't read all the post as we've discussed this in length before....
The Bible says he was "raised in Spirit" so you must be calling the Bible a book of lies then. Are you? But if you don't agree with that then there must be an explination..Right? Are you willing to learn or stay stuck in the darkness?
Have not spirit beings, angels, n nity. A very, very wrong thing to do. They will answer to God for that mistake.......
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If your saying that he is Almighty God and "LORD" Jehovah your completely wrong. The Bible says there are many Lords and many Gods.
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Let's look carefully at the whole passage in the New Testament saying that there are many so-called gods and lords.


First Corinthians 8:4-6 Therefore concerning the eating of tings sacrificed to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world and that there is no God but one. (v.4)

For even if there are so-called gods, either in heaven or on earth, even as there are many gods and many lords, (v.5)

Yet to us there is one God, the Father, out from whom are all things, and we are unto Him, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we are through Him. (v.6)



1.) Verse 4 says that "WE know ... that there is no God but one."

If YOU galveston, think there are more than one God, then obviously you are not a part of the "WE" of the Christian brotherhood. By insisting that the Bible says there are many Gods you only expose that you are not one of the "WE" of the Christian church who knows that "there is no God but one."

2.) Though verse 5 says " *IF* there are so-called gods ... many gods and many lords ..."

The next few words are the most crucial - "YET TO US ... there is one God ..."

If YOU galveston, believe in the many so-called gods and lords, you only expose that you are not of the company of "US" - the Christian botherhood. For Paul says in verse 6 " Yet to us there is one God, the Father, out from whom are all things, and we are unto Him, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we are through Him. "


You are OUTSIDE of the "WE" of the Christian church in verse 4 who KNOW that there is no God but one.

You are OUTSIDE of the "US" of the Christian church in verse 6 to whom there is only one God and one Lord Jesus Christ.

So your teaching is from the standpoint of one who is OUTSIDE of the Christian brotherhood.

You need to repent and to receive Christ in order that you WOULD be regenerated into the circle of the "WE" and the family of the "US". As it stands you are arguing for the heathen outsider and unbeliever regardless of the name "Jehovah's Witness".

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Originally posted by galveston75
See there you go again Manny. Who are you to say that scripture means something else about flesh and blood being in heaven? It says what it says. You see you start to create all kinds of problems when you don't take the scripture for what it says. We as humans have no right, or the wisdom to say "I think it means this, not that". Be very careful. The Bib ...[text shortened]... teach us what the Bible says. You can never progress spiritually when you on your own.
Why did Christ say see I have flesh and bone? Touch and feel? Dude basic comprehension is what you need.





Manny

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Originally posted by menace71
Why did Christ say see I have flesh and bone? Touch and feel? Dude basic comprehension is what you need.





Manny
Are you really that confused ? I hope not Manny. Of course at that time he materialized real flesh and blood just as other angels have done many times in the past. Remember the angels that mated with human females before the flood? Would they not have to be real flesh and blood to procreate?
But at the time of Jesus returning to heaven he dematerialized that flesh and blood and went to heaven as a spirit. Flesh and blood cannot go to heaven as it simply could not survive in the vacume of space if for no other reason.
So don't insult me like that Manny. It's a simple explination.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Are you really that confused ? I hope not Manny. Of course at that time he materialized real flesh and blood just as other angels have done many times in the past. Remember the angels that mated with human females before the flood? Would they not have to be real flesh and blood to procreate?
But at the time of Jesus returning to heaven he dematerialize ...[text shortened]... space if for no other reason.
So don't insult me like that Manny. It's a simple explination.
Can't you read and understand a complete sentence? Jesus said nothing
about being an angel and materializing in the flesh. He was convincing
them that His body was resurrected, for He said it is I. You keep making
things up like Satan to defend your antichrist teachings.

P.S. You are actually saying Jesus is the deceiver.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Can't you read and understand a complete sentence? Jesus said nothing
about being an angel and materializing in the flesh. He was convincing
them that His body was resurrected, for He said it is I. You keep making
things up like Satan to defend your antichrist teachings.

P.S. You are actually saying Jesus is the deceiver.
What? Where did I say Jesus was an angel? I believe I said he materialized a fleshly body like all spirit creatures can but in the case of Satan and the demons who no longer can. Read what I wrote not what you think I did . Slow down.
And the body Jesus had from birth was dead. If he had been resurrected with the same body he would have looked the same and would have been recognized by all, but he wasn't, hense the reason he had prove who he was by showing the wounds.
Why is this so complicated for you guys?

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Originally posted by galveston75
What? Where did I say Jesus was an angel? I believe I said he materialized a fleshly body like all spirit creatures can but in the case of Satan and the demons who no longer can. Read what I wrote not what you think I did . Slow down.
And the body Jesus had from birth was dead. If he had been resurrected with the same body he would have looked the sam ...[text shortened]... eason he had prove who he was by showing the wounds.
Why is this so complicated for you guys?
Why do you keep making up these lies? After showing them his wounded
body that was once dead and now was alive, He said it is I. It was the
same nail scared and pierced body that He had died with, now made
alive. It was not a materialized body for that would be deception.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Why do you keep making up these lies? After showing them his wounded
body that was once dead and now was alive, He said it is I. It was the
same nail scared and pierced body that He had died with, now made
alive. It was not a materialized body for that would be deception.
Wow..do you not have any reasoning ability or just common sense in you at all? I give up. Read your Bible and pray and pray for God to help you is all I can say.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Matthew 18:20
New Living Translation (NLT)

20 For where two or three gather together as my followers,[a] I am there among them.”

Jesus is the one speaking here. So is he there in the flesh or in spirit?
NIV
Matthew 18:20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”

In whose name do you gather? Its a simple question, why won't you answer?

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Originally posted by galveston75
What? Where did I say Jesus was an angel? I believe I said he materialized a fleshly body like all spirit creatures can but in the case of Satan and the demons who no longer can. Read what I wrote not what you think I did . Slow down.
And the body Jesus had from birth was dead. If he had been resurrected with the same body he would have looked the sam ...[text shortened]... eason he had prove who he was by showing the wounds.
Why is this so complicated for you guys?
Satan is truly your father, now you flatly deny what you posted earlier.

you posted the following: Scriptural evidence indicates that the name Michael applied to God’s Son before he left heaven to become Jesus Christ and also after his return. Michael is the only one said to be “the archangel,” meaning “chief angel,” or “principal angel.” The term occurs in the Bible only in the singular. This seems to imply that there is but one whom God has designated chief, or head, of the angelic host. At 1 Thessalonians 4:16 the voice of the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ is described as being that of an archangel, suggesting that he is, in fact, himself the archangel.


lies, lies, and more lies. That's what we've come to expect from you

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Originally posted by galveston75
Wow..do you not have any reasoning ability or just common sense in you at all? I give up. Read your Bible and pray and pray for God to help you is all I can say.
What happened to your fellow JW, robbie carrobie?

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Originally posted by Doward
Satan is truly your father, now you flatly deny what you posted earlier.

you posted the following: [b]Scriptural evidence indicates that the name Michael applied to God’s Son before he left heaven to become Jesus Christ and also after his return. Michael is the only one said to be “the archangel,” meaning “chief angel,” or “principal angel.” The term occur ...[text shortened]... the archangel.



lies, lies, and more lies. That's what we've come to expect from you[/b]
I love you too man!!!! Lol.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
What happened to your fellow JW, robbie carrobie?
I don't know as I'm worried about him. He's had some health problems so I hope to hear from him soon.