Originally posted by sonshipwe have a tendency to appeal to reason rather than emotion, we are after all not pedlars of the Word of God with cheap tricks and gimmicks.
Have you ever gone to any door and sat with people and taught them how to receive Jesus Christ into their heart ?
If not, why not ?
02 Mar 17
Originally posted by sonshipWhere do we teach that 'the Lord Jesus' is not available.
Notice the subtle difference.
Where do we teach that 'the Lord' is not available.
Whether intentional or not you left off [b]"Jesus" in "the Lord JESUS".
By the way, The Lord is the Spirit (2 Cor. 3:17). The Lord Jesus is the Holy Spirit. But you don't believe in the Triune God. That to you is pagan.
Th ...[text shortened]... g Spirit" (1 Cor. 15:45) [/b]
He became in a form in which God GIVES His divine life to man[/b]
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Has galveston or roigan ever gone door to door and found someone to sit down with and show them how to receive the Lord Jesus Christ into their heart?
The indoctrination of your trainers would consider this to be absolutely taboo, to put it mildly. You are there thinking you are doing a great service to Jehovah of the Old Testament, to put down Jesus.
Oh, you're smart enough to know that putting down Jesus will draw suspicion from many people who have heard the Gospel. So this detracting from the Lord Jesus will be gradual and subtle.
The result is that your own unlove for Christ will be duplicated in the person you contact. He or she too will develop a cold, aloof, even opposing heart towards the Lord Jesus Christ.
You know this is true.
02 Mar 17
Originally posted by sonshipDude you are not making ANY sense.
Has galveston or roigan ever gone door to door and found someone to sit down with and show them how to receive the Lord Jesus Christ into their heart?
The indoctrination of your trainers would consider this to be absolutely taboo, to put it mildly. You are there thinking you are doing a great service to Jehovah of the Old Testament, to put down ...[text shortened]... op a cold, aloof, even opposing heart towards the Lord Jesus Christ.
You know this is true.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieI am not impressed in "We are more intellectual. You are more emotional".
we have a tendency to appeal to reason rather than emotion, we are after all not pedlars of the Word of God with cheap tricks and gimmicks.
Actually Jehovah's Witnesses is a religion founded on hate.
Your organization is founded on the sheer hatred of all the Christian denominations.
Not that denominations are not a terrible thing.
You may have read that the wrath of man does not accomplish the righteousness of God.
Please don't try to impress me with "more cerebral than thou" line.
02 Mar 17
Originally posted by sonshipYou yourself do not know how to receive the Lord Jesus Christ into your heart. How can you teach others. You preach that all you need to do is to THINK AND TO TALK. The Bible has no such thing and in fact even condemns those who just THING AND TALK.
Has galveston or roigan ever gone door to door and found someone to sit down with and show them how to receive the Lord Jesus Christ into their heart?
The indoctrination of your trainers would consider this to be absolutely taboo, to put it mildly. You are there thinking you are doing a great service to Jehovah of the Old Testament, to put down ...[text shortened]... op a cold, aloof, even opposing heart towards the Lord Jesus Christ.
You know this is true.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieMe no speak English! huh?
Dude you are not making ANY sense.
Just tell us that either you, or Galvaston or roigan ever went to a house to help lead anyone to receive Christ - Jesus Christ the Lord - into their hearts.
If it makes no sense to you then that establishes rather than negates my observation.
In your teaching - Christ is not available. It makes no sense to speak as if He is.
It makes not sense to you because you oppose it.
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Originally posted by Rajk999One heretic at a time.
You yourself do not know how to receive the Lord Jesus Christ into your heart. How can you teach others. You preach that all you need to do is to THINK AND TO TALK. The Bible has no such thing and in fact even condemns those who just THING AND TALK.
Go sing a skeptical hymn with your comrade FMF for a moment.
02 Mar 17
Originally posted by sonshipwe don't go around with Holy water and crucifixes imposing ourselves on people, 'take him into your heart', like some kind of freak show, we appeal to reason.
Me no speak English! huh?
Just tell us that either you, or Galvaston or roigan ever went to a house to help lead anyone to receive Christ - Jesus Christ the Lord - into their hearts.
If it makes no sense to you then that establishes rather than negates my observation.
In your teaching - Christ is not available. It makes no sense to speak as if He is.
It makes not sense to you because you oppose it.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieYour teaching may have this or that "tendency". It is wrong and against the New Testament.
we have a tendency to appeal to reason rather than emotion, we are after all not pedlars of the Word of God with cheap tricks and gimmicks.
You may use the same phrases and words in the New Testament. But your dictionary is different.
Son of God - "an angel like Michael".
Holy Spirit - " only a force "
Even kingdom of God in your teaching would not come up to the level of Romans 14:17 - "righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit" and that TODAY.
02 Mar 17
Originally posted by sonshipthese are our beliefs, we think there is a scriptural basis for our beliefs, if you don't then that's fine, but we do.
Your teaching may have this or that "tendency". It is wrong and against the New Testament.
You may use the same phrases and words in the New Testament. But your dictionary is different.
Son of God - "an angel like Michael".
Holy Spirit - " only a force "
Even kingdom of God in your teaching would not come up to the level of [b]Romans 14:17 - "righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit" and that TODAY.[/b]
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieRobbie, you recently paid me a compliment. I noticed that you did say you thought I cared about people.
we don't go around with Holy water and crucifixes imposing ourselves on people, 'take him into your heart', like some kind of freak show, we appeal to reason.
It is Christ in me that does any proper caring. Please do not now insult my intelligence.
"We don't do this - (the most outlandish and extreme bad examples of Christianity)" cannot be your excuse for your bad Christology.
You cannot bribe a conscience by doing something ELSE good. You oppose Jesus as Lord. Being good at not dancing with snakes or selling holy water doesn't excuse your opposing Jesus as Lord according to the Bible.
02 Mar 17
Originally posted by sonshipyes i also said that you appeared to me to be sincere in your beliefs, why this should be anything I cannot say. People here are very harsh with one another, very unforgiving and intolerant, myself included at times.
Robbie, you recently paid me a compliment. I noticed that you did say you thought I cared about people.
It is Christ in me that does any proper caring. Please do not now insult my intelligence.
"We don't do this - (the most outlandish and extreme bad examples of Christianity)" cannot be your excuse for your bad Christology.
You cannot bribe a consc ...[text shortened]... snakes or selling holy water doesn't excuse your opposing Jesus as Lord according to the Bible.
It simply appeared to me that despite posting something that seemed anti Biblical that it was not really the entire picture and forums are a rather cumbersome tool for expression so i was willing to make room for the idea that it was only a partial explanation. Talking about Christ is one thing, acting like Christ is quite another, don't you think? I think we should be more compassionate.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou should be concerned that because you have some true things, you are not taking in some terribly false things with them.
these are our beliefs, we think there is a scriptural basis for our beliefs, if you don't then that's fine, but we do.
Concerning the millennial kingdom - JW have always been able to correct many mainline denominational Christians. They do not often understand the millennial kingdom.
But along with that you have been trained to twist away some vital and crucial aspects of the gospel.
Did you ever seriously spend time to insist that Jehovah tell you if your attitude towards the Lord Jesus Christ was pleasing to God ? I mean PRAYER inquiring the will of God.
Did you ever seriously seek to know from God personally if He were happy with your attitude towards His Son Jesus Christ ?
What have they done to you ?
There is nothing for the Wonderful Jesus but bothering, suspicion, fear of Babylonian idols, insulating your heart from the warm love for Christ the New Testament glows with in every page.
Something is WRONG Robbie.