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    02 Nov '17 06:381 edit
    The morality of Christians is to let Jesus Christ, Who is alive and available, and can enter into my heart, LIVE in me.

    This should be the normal Christian life, if it is not the average Christian life. But if we want to experience being Christ's we should want what is normal.
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    If Jesus Christ is not alive from the dead and knowable, then doesn't matter what Christian morals or anything else is "Christian".

    If Christ is not available, it doesn't matter.
    Let's eat and drink and have a blast for tomorrow we die and rot, all. Life then is absurd.

    The good news starts with Christ being resurrected, alive, knowable, and available to be our life.
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    Christian morals.
    Identification with the Christ Who is alive and available - Christian morals.

    " I have been crucified with Christ, and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live in faith, the faith of the Son of God Who loved me and gave Himself for me." (Gal. 2:20)


    Christian morals - Christ is living in me. My old man and old life was buried with Christ. As Christ rose and lives I receive His to be I receive Him and believe that He can live in me and be in me all that I need.
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    Christian morals -

    As a believer in Jesus as Lord, don't put yourself under the law of Moses. Submit yourself to be under grace.

    Grace is like the "POWER STEERING" of Jesus living and flowing in you as you have faith He can be everything to you.

    Being under the law of Moses or even under your self made law is self defeating. What? You didn't read it?

    "For sin shall not lord it over you, for you are not under law but under grace." (Rom. 6:14)


    Grace is the enjoyment of having Jesus Christ be everything you need. It is the heavenly "power steering" of letting Jesus live again but this time in YOU.
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    02 Nov '17 07:29
    "Grace in its highest definition is,
    God in the Son to be enjoyed by us.
    It is not only something done or given,
    But Christ Himself, our portion glorious."
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    Its good. Read it again aloud.

    "Grace in its highest definition is,
    God in the Son to be enjoyed by us.
    It is not only something done or given,
    But Christ Himself, our portion glorious."


    Would anyone like to see the rest of the lyrics to this great hymn ?
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    Here Hymnal.net supplies us with the melody.
    https://www.hymnal.net/zh/hymn/h/497

    And here are the rest of the words to Witness Lee's lyrics and Henry James Holmes beautiful melody.

    Grace in its highest definition is
    God in the Son to be enjoyed by us;
    It is not only something done or giv’n,
    But God Himself, our portion glorious.

    2 God is incarnate in the flesh that we
    Him may receive, experience ourself;
    This is the grace which we receive of God,
    Which comes thru Christ and which is Christ Himself.

    3 Paul the Apostle counted all as dung,
    ’Twas only God in Christ he counted grace;
    ’Tis by this grace-the Lord experienced-
    That he surpassed the others in the race.

    4 It is this grace-Christ as our inward strength-
    Which with His all-sufficiency doth fill;
    It is this grace which in our spirit is,
    There energizing, working out God’s will.

    5 This grace, which is the living Christ Himself,
    Is what we need and must experience;
    Lord, may we know this grace and by it live,
    Thyself increasingly as grace to sense.


    http://www.witness-lee-hymns.org/hymns/H0497.html
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    Sonship talking to himself 8 times.

    I hope he sees a professional soon.
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    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Sonship talking to himself 8 times.

    I hope he sees a professional soon.
    7 more to go for you 😉
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    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Sonship talking to himself 8 times.

    I hope he sees a professional soon.
    I overheard that.

    If I am beside myself it is for your sake.
    If I am sober it is also for your sake.

    Look, GRACE is a miraculously and normal way for a human being to live. It is to be in union with the uncreated life who brought us and everything else forth from nothing to begin with.

    Let me put it to you this way.

    The REAL life ... the really, REAL life is an indestructible life.

    Listen, the REAL life is a LIFE which is uncreated and eternal.
    What did I say the REAL life was ?
    Just tell me what I said.
    You can do it.

    Ultimately, the last LIFE the REAL life the life behind all life is an uncreated and eternal Person.
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    02 Nov '17 11:29
    Christian morals then.

    They include a belief that a PERFECT Man existed.
    They continue with a belief that a PERFECT Man ... could not ... be destroyed.

    A Perfect Person lived on this earth.
    A Perfect Person was vindicated to the point that even DEATH itself He overcame.

    You start there with Christian morals.

    There was a life that lived which was an indestructible life.
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    02 Nov '17 13:33
    Originally posted by @sonship
    Christian morals then.

    They include a belief that a PERFECT Man existed.
    How can you characterize such a belief as being a "moral"?

    Isn't morality about behaviour and conduct? Doesn't morality govern action?
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    02 Nov '17 13:37
    Originally posted by @sonship
    A Perfect Person lived on this earth.
    A Perfect Person was vindicated to the point that even DEATH itself He overcame.

    You start there with Christian morals.
    Again, how can you simply saying or believing that "a perfect person walked this earth" and "a perfect person was vindicated to the point that even death itself he overcame", be construed as being a moral or morals? These are mere assertions you are making. How are thy, to your way of thinking, morals?
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    02 Nov '17 15:23
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Sonship talking to himself 8 times.

    I hope he sees a professional soon.
    Or just go ahead and open a compound. He needs a throne on a dias, so he can pontificate to his sheep. Eventually kool-aid or ak-47s will be involved. Or new sneakers for them all, or something.
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    02 Nov '17 15:25
    Dais. I'm slydexic.
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