Originally posted by @wolfgang59 You are right there.
Or at least US Christians on the internet are a weird bunch.
I've Christian friends in UK and NZ,
have foster children saying Grace at my table,
do what I can in my community.
But on the Spirituality forum I seem to be one of the Sons of Satan!
And they are happy to kill someone in their home!
I've been called the most horrible things imaginable for a Christian to be called, by other Christians on this forum. Just because we disagree about stuff. It's extraordinary.
And yet generally it is they who exhibit negative characteristics: Paranoid, right-wing, dogmatic, hard-nosed, grudge-bearing, sour, angry, vengeful, entitled.
The idea that it is ok to kill someone if they break into your home is a typical American knee-jerk philosophy, also seen with the rhetoric Trump uses to threaten North Korea.
Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem I am an American, and this country is full of people who love both Jesus and Guns. I suppose I find that a little bit odd, given the overall pacific nature of Jesus' teachings.
I suppose target practice is harmless enough. I admit that I both own guns and yet do not consider myself a violent person.
But my neighbor's door recently got kicked in ...[text shortened]... re-lived the shooting again and again. I fear that final face of the dead person would haunt me.
This atheist scarab does not see it this way.
It is disgusting to even think to empty your 12-gauge to an intruder, but it is unskillful to permit the rape and the murder of the ones you love. Facing any kind of unprovoked murderous attack in my home, I would help on the spot my attacker's spirit to break free from its shell, feeling deep compassion for the death of that sentient being. Then I would conduct extreme ownership and face the consequences in full.
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Originally posted by @black-beetle This atheist scarab does not see it this way.
It is disgusting to even think to empty your 12-gauge to an intruder, but it is unskillful to permit the rape and the murder of the ones you love. Facing any kind of unprovoked murderous attack in my home, I would help on the spot my attacker's spirit to break free from its shell, feeling deep compassion f ...[text shortened]... at sentient being. Then I would conduct extreme ownership and face the consequences in full.
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I agree, it depends on the physical threat rather than mere fact someone has entered a premises unlawfully. I would have absolutely no compunction in ending someone if I thought they were a real threat to my family or indeed myself.
Originally posted by @divegeester The idea that it is ok to kill someone if they break into your home is a typical American knee-jerk philosophy, also seen with the rhetoric Trump uses to threaten North Korea.
It's called the Castle Doctrine. Shoot first. Ask questions later.
A criminal breaks into your home they risk the consequences. If North Korea launches a strike against the U.S. they will be annihilated.
Originally posted by @josephw It's called the Castle Doctrine. Shoot first. Ask questions later.
A criminal breaks into your home they risk the consequences. If North Korea launches a strike against the U.S. they will be annihilated.
I sometimes wish this god stuff was real so that you could experience banging on the
Pearly Gates of Heaven while us decent non-believers are all inside playing jazz-harps.
Originally posted by @josephw You wouldn't understand.
Give it a try. It's the thread topic. For instance, are avowedly non-violent/anti-violence, pacifist, non-gun owner Christians [like Jehovah's Witnesses for example] in some way failing "to think according to Biblical truth" with regard to gun ownership and the right to kill?
Originally posted by @divegeester I agree, it depends on the physical threat rather than mere fact someone has entered a premises unlawfully. I would have absolutely no compunction in ending someone if I thought they were a real threat to my family or indeed myself.
They broke into your home. Opening a dialogue with the assailant and hesitating may cost you and your family's life.
A criminal breaks into your home they assume the risk they may be killed. That makes them a very dangerous person.
Originally posted by @josephw They broke into your home. Opening a dialogue with the assailant and hesitating may cost you and your family's life.
A criminal breaks into your home they assume the risk they may be killed. That makes them a very dangerous person.
I can understand the argument justifying this, but I am interested in what bearing your notion of "Biblical truth" has on it, or how "Biblical truth" applies to someone who disagrees. What I want to know is how is there any religious or specifically Biblical/Christian angle to the assertion of the right to use lethal force in self-defence?
Christians who love guns
22 Sep '17 08:42
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