Originally posted by @kellyjayDon't be sorry, I'm not.
Matthew 4:17 English Standard Version (ESV)
17 From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”
They both did, sorry!
If I thought I was wrong but was wrong about being wrong... I can live with that.
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Originally posted by @rajk999Nope, I checked with the Bible, both last night and this morning.
Obviously lemonlime checked with the pastor. He did not check the Bible.
Typical of church Christians .. focus is on what the pastor says and not the Bible.
You need to apologise to tell someone that they are wrong?
I was a little too eager to prove I was wrong, and in my haste I made the mistake of being wrong about being wrong.
I suppose I could apologize for being right, but that seems kind of weird, so I won't do that... unless weirdness is the goalpost, so maybe I should repent and admit I was right... ?
((( aw crap! )))
Come on, give me a break! I mean, look at me...
I'm an ORANGUTAN!
Originally posted by @rajk999There is nothing wrong with being easy on the other person when pointing out errors.
Obviously lemonlime checked with the pastor. He did not check the Bible.
Typical of church Christians .. focus is on what the pastor says and not the Bible.
You need to apologise to tell someone that they are wrong?
I prefer that over the name calling, and smearing of intellect and character when I see them
and choose to highlight them. It isn't like I'm flawless and not prone to error from time to
time as well.
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelThis is my first time getting a glimpse into your theory, or theories.
Ironic! You guys have different goalposts for my theories..
When in doubt check yourself.
It's apparent others here are aware of your beliefs. I'm not, but this is what I've managed to glean thus far:
[ And again this is new to me, so correct me if I'm wrong ]
Are you saying there is no external and independently self existent God, but there actually is a 'god' that exists within all of us?
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I'm actually enjoying this thread.
We aren't in danger of being encouraged to take it to the Science forum because of the alien DNA angle, because that part of it qualifys more as science fiction than it does science. Besides, the science guys are intellectually superior to us and aren't really needed... they're just a bunch of party poopers.
Same goes for the master debaters over at that other forum.
But it seems I may have to wait awhile before the inevitable conclusion shows itself. (i.e. the god we should be worshiping is ourselves)
On second thought, maybe this thread does belong in one of the other forums.
Originally posted by @kellyjaySo you need to apologise for correcting a wrong statement.
There is nothing wrong with being easy on the other person when pointing out errors.
I prefer that over the name calling, and smearing of intellect and character when I see them
and choose to highlight them. It isn't like I'm flawless and not prone to error from time to
time as well.
Something is wrong with you. No apologies from me.
Originally posted by @lemon-limeI was quite alarmed this evening when I thought I had discovered alien DNA in my refrigerator.
I'm actually enjoying this thread.
We aren't in danger of being encouraged to take it to the Science forum because of the alien DNA angle, because that part of it qualifys more as science fiction than it does science. Besides, the science guys are intellectually superior to us and aren't really needed... they're just a bunch of party poopers.
Same go ...[text shortened]... urselves)
On second thought, maybe this thread does belong in one of the other forums.
Turned out to be a forgotten lump of Stilton.
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeI don't recall ever seeing that word.
I was quite alarmed this evening when I thought I had discovered alien DNA in my refrigerator.
Turned out to be a forgotten lump of Stilton.
The word "Stilton" is alien to my ears (and eyeballs)
So, I can logically infer "Stilton" to be of alien origin, and from this also infer the existence of alien life forms.
Finding an alien substance in your refrigerator is a disturbing clue, as it portends of extraterrestrial manipulation of our digestive tracts for the purpose of... what?
And why, for what malevolent purpose? Or is the purpose benevolent? When will we know? Will we ever know?
Aaack! The suspense is killing me!
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeAre you sure it was Stilton and not Gorgonzola? Wouldn't that change the calculus about
I was quite alarmed this evening when I thought I had discovered alien DNA in my refrigerator.
Turned out to be a forgotten lump of Stilton.
alien DNA, because you know...refrigerator and cheese...you know how them aliens are!
Originally posted by @secondsonI'm just saying , as I have before, that you should check with yourself.
So, evidently, you are saying that what you have claimed in this thread about things spiritual are just your theories, and that you can't say with all assurance you know anything absolutely true about what you're purporting in this thread?
But when someone challenges you about what you believe you have free course to discredit them as you see fit?
The first guage of truth should be ourselves, our direct experiences.
Originally posted by @lemon-limeMy theories are fairly standard. Not very out there, imo.
This is my first time getting a glimpse into your theory, or theories.
It's apparent others here are aware of your beliefs. I'm not, but this is what I've managed to glean thus far:
[ And again this is new to me, so correct me if I'm wrong ]
Are you saying there is no external and independently self existent God, but there actually is a 'god' that exists within all of us?
The external and internal must be dealt with. Every aspect of life can be managed when we understand the (psychological) mechanisms and the overall process of divination.
But yes, there is no external God as puported by most Christians. There is the Light of the universe, The Lord, which no one can fool but as far as a big external anthropomorphized bearded god is concerned, there is none to be found anywhere.
Originally posted by @lemon-limeIn short the spiritual component of humans cannot be detected because it is spiritual.
I'm actually enjoying this thread.
We aren't in danger of being encouraged to take it to the Science forum because of the alien DNA angle, because that part of it qualifys more as science fiction than it does science. Besides, the science guys are intellectually superior to us and aren't really needed... they're just a bunch of party poopers.
Same go ...[text shortened]... urselves)
On second thought, maybe this thread does belong in one of the other forums.
There is nothing for science to measure as science is understood atm.
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Originally posted by @karoly-aczelWe are in agreement on that score. Scientists and philosophers have been jawboning over this very idea for several years.
In short the spiritual component of humans cannot be detected because it is spiritual.
There is nothing for science to measure as science is understood atm.
The most common scientific explanation is that there is no 'you' inside of you. We are simply biological machines that act and react to stimuli, and have fooled 'ourselves' (our conscious minds) into thinking there's a little man sitting at the controls in our brain.
To my way of thinking this is like saying the lights are on but no one is home. And when we are looking around and viewing life, it's like our brains are a movie theater, and the movie is showing on the screen... but all of the seats are empty. So if no one is in the theater, who is watching the movie? It can't be 'me' because according to science there is no me.
But what I'd really like to know is if no one is home, why should 'I' bother to knock or ring the door bell?
Ring ring, hello? Is anyone home?
"Nope, there ain't no one here."
Who said that?
"Well, it wasn't me... cause there ain't no me."
Do you know what a double negative is?
"Nope, and I don't care. Now go away, there... is no one here."
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Originally posted by @lemon-limeThe most common scientific explanation is that there is no 'you' inside of you. We are simply biological machines that act and react to stimuli, and have fooled 'ourselves' (our conscious minds) into thinking there's a little man sitting at the controls in our brain. To my way of thinking this is like saying the lights are on but no one is home. And when we are looking around and viewing life, it's like our brains are a movie theater, and the movie is showing on the screen... but all of the seats are empty. So if no one is in the theater, who is watching the movie? It can't be 'me' because according to science there is no me.
A link please to the "most common scientific explanation" that 'there is no you' and 'there is no me' or that 'there is no one home'. I think you are both simply making this up and also trying to project your superstitious outlook onto something in a deceptive way. Links please. Not more pub-bore propaganda about what you claim is "the most common scientific explanation".