@fmf saidI practically BEGGED you to not take some of my posts to places I didn’t want them to go. I told you if you wanted to discuss the things you were bringing up I would be happy to join you! Now you are still going on about my part of this discussion, do you have mirrors in your home?
This isn't what the allegory in the OP is about. Nothing remotely like this was said about Chris and Donna. It specifically said that they were happy and in love. It says nothing about their marriage not being "based on love". And there was nothing about it being a case of waiting till "something better" comes along.
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@kellyjay said'Love is more than a feeling, it is a commitment.'
Okay, something happened that took love and 23 years of happiness and turned into nothing worth keeping; you are still up against what I've been asking. We go through all kinds of stuff; what love is, you didn't want to define it and still don't. Love is more than a feeling; it is a commitment; if your love is only a feeling, and we are only talking about how you feel, whate ...[text shortened]... you feel, it is your feeling no matter or when; that marriage has nothing to do with that question.
I disagree. I've been in an exclusive to all others relationship for over 40 years, but neither of us has ever felt or been 'committed' to it, and we never married. If you wake up in love with someone then you're good to go, so to speak, but if the magic dies then either of us is free to leave, and always have been. Love is a new thing, every day, or it's a dead duck.
The same principle should apply to religion; if you believe in a god or gods because that's just what you do, and it is that to which you are 'committed', it leads to an unhealthy closing of the mind, and a lack of acceptance of any other possibility, and anything which doesn't fit with your commitment is rejected without due thought. The trick is to keep the duck of intelligent and ever questioning thought alive and quacking.
@indonesia-phil saidYou are not committed to who you are with, and neither are they to you. Do you think that compares to relationships with commitments and marital vows because you have been faithfully exclusively for no reason whatsoever? You are just there till the magic leaves; the wind blows this way than that, so one of you walks out, no big deal after over 40 years, that would all be meaningless because you are not committed?
'Love is more than a feeling, it is a commitment.'
I disagree. I've been in an exclusive to all others relationship for over 40 years, but neither of us has ever felt or been 'committed' to it, and we never married. If you wake up in love with someone then you're good to go, so to speak, but if the magic dies then either of us is free to leave, and always have been. ...[text shortened]... ought. The trick is to keep the duck of intelligent and ever questioning thought alive and quacking.
When confronted with something that doesn't fit our worldviews an unhealthy closed mind refuses to look at all of the evidence; when confronted with something that doesn't fit and refuses to discuss it. That doesn't require religion, only someone comfortable in what they believe as long as they don't have to defend it, so they don't.
@kellyjay saidDo you agree wiith B in the OP?
I practically BEGGED you to not take some of my posts to places I didn’t want them to go. I told you if you wanted to discuss the things you were bringing up I would be happy to join you! Now you are still going on about my part of this discussion, do you have mirrors in your home?
@fmf saidI don't think you require me for me to tell you what I believe; you speak for those here we are not needed. Just think of something toxic and insert my name or some other demeaning way to marginalize an opinion and use that. In the end, that is what happens!
I am asking you what you believe.
Do you agree with B in the OP?
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@kellyjay saidDon't play one of your toxic victim cards and then simply run away.
I don't think you require me for me to tell you what I believe; you speak for those here we are not needed. Just think of something toxic and insert my name or some other demeaning way to marginalize an opinion and use that. In the end, that is what happens!
You are demeaning yourself.
Read what A and B say in the OP again.
Do you agree with B?
@fmf saidWell, it is your world; I gave you responses! Toxic victim, good you are combining that with don't run away; you are ON A ROLL!
Don't play one of your toxic victim cards and then simply run away.
You are demeaning yourself.
Read what A and B say in the OP again.
Do you agree with B?