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    @rajk999 said
    I dont know what you are asking to be honest. All I can say is that Jesus Christ presented to people to way to the Kingdom of God. That in my opinion is accurate.
    Exactly. Jesus is the "LIVING WORD OF GOD!"
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    @rajk999 said
    I am sure that the preaching and commandments of Christ is accurate and it is the way to the Kingdom of God.
    lol... I'm gonna rub a little hard here, so don't get offended please.
    If you are sure that the Preaching and Commandments of Christ are accurate, How do you know?
    Which parts are accurate and which not?
    How do you know?
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    @kingdavid403 said
    Exactly. Jesus is the "LIVING WORD OF GOD!"
    Not many Christians truly believe that. Of course they pay lip-service to that notion and they sideline much of the teaching of Christ as belonging in another dispensation and not applicable for entry into the Kingdom of God.
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    @kingdavid403 said
    lol... I'm gonna rub a little hard here, so don't get offended please.
    If you are sure that the Preaching and Commandments of Christ are accurate, How do you know?
    Which parts are accurate and which not?
    How do you know?
    I would say its all accurate. If it were not then Christ is a liar.
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    @rajk999 said
    I would say its all accurate. If it were not then Christ is a liar.
    So by FAITH. 🙂
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    14 Jul '20 23:411 edit
    @rajk999 said
    Not many Christians truly believe that. Of course they pay lip-service to that notion and they sideline much of the teaching of Christ as belonging in another dispensation and not applicable for entry into the Kingdom of God.
    You may be correct. However, we're not talking about that. We're talking about how faith in Christ and good works in Christ go together. What others think, I basically cannot change; unless, them seeing my good works of faith in Christ changes their minds. Either way, This is off-topic.
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    @kingdavid403 said
    So by FAITH. 🙂
    OF course. All religious activity is by faith. It is not possible to prove anything.
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    @kingdavid403 said
    You may be correct. However, we're not talking about that. We're talking about how faith in Christ and good works in Christ go together. What others think, I basically cannot change; unless, them seeing my good works of faith in Christ changes their minds. Either way, This is off-topic.
    Professions of faith is a completely separate thing from good works. Perople can do good works and know absolutely nothing about Christ, neither do they need to profess any faith.
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    @rajk999 said
    OF course. All religious activity is by faith. It is not possible to prove anything.
    Well, you can prove your faith by your walk (works).
    Having faith is a work of faith.
    Reading Bible, church, helping others etc... (works).
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    @rajk999 said
    Professions of faith is a completely separate thing from good works. Perople can do good works and know absolutely nothing about Christ, neither do they need to profess any faith.
    People can do good works and know absolutely nothing about Christ,
    Are you certain of this? How about God?
    Why would people do good works without some sort of belief in God or His goodness?
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    @kingdavid403 said
    Well, you can prove your faith by your walk (works).
    Having faith is a work of faith.
    Reading Bible, church, helping others etc... (works).
    Christ will judge that.
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    @rajk999 said
    Christ will judge that.
    Yeah, what's your point?
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    @kingdavid403 said
    Yeah, what's your point?
    The point is i dont tell people what is good works.
    Jesus already did that, and he will judge by what he preached.
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    @rajk999 said
    The point is i dont tell people what is good works.
    Jesus already did that, and he will judge by what he preached.
    We already know what good works are.
    'God has written them on our hearts' (paraphrased).

    To each, his or her own.
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    @kingdavid403 said
    People can do good works and know absolutely nothing about Christ,
    Are you certain of this? How about God?
    Why would people do good works without some sort of belief in God or His goodness?
    You have a very bad impression of humanity. All Jesus did was to remind people what is good and righteous and to tell them that this is what is going to get them into the Kingdom of God as is plainly stated in Matt 5. People have since the time of Adam and Eve, known what is right and wrong and good and evil. It is built into their conscience. Its in Genesis.
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