Doubt good, certainty bad

Originally posted by RJHinds
Do you think that applies to Satan? Is this a command to love Satan? And
in what way are you going to love Satan? When we love God, we obey His
commandments. Are you going to love Satan by obeying His commandments?

see the article RJH, it mentions this very fact!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
what about this?

Thus Christianity is not solely concerned with the here and now, but offers protection
for the future as well, you cannot , despite your best efforts, hope to offer salvation to
anyone, can you?

I do not believe you offer "salvation" to anyone. I do not believe the teachings you propagate "offer protection for the future". I understand that you believe that that you do.

you cannot , despite your best efforts, hope to offer salvation to
anyone, can you?

I do not profess to "offer salvation to anyone". So what "best efforts" are you referring to? This is a straw man.

Originally posted by FMF
I do not believe you offer "salvation" to anyone. I do not believe the teachings you propagate "offer protection for the future". I understand that you believe that that you do.

[b]you cannot , despite your best efforts, hope to offer salvation to
anyone, can you?

I do not profess to "offer salvation to anyone". So what "best efforts" are you referring to? This is a straw man.[/b]

Why do you not believe it FMF, what evidence do you have for not believing it?

it was intended as a rhetorical question FMF, difficult to discern I know from the text.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Why do you not believe it FMF, what evidence do you have for not believing it?

Many reasons. The spiritual mind map it has fostered in you is just one of them. You are prima facie evidence.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
it was intended as a rhetorical question FMF, difficult to discern I know from the text.

As "rhetoric" goes, robbie, it is deceitful. I do not profess to "offer salvation to anyone". So to claim - even "rhetorically" that I am making "best efforts" to do so, is to misrepresent what I have been saying.

Originally posted by FMF
Many reasons. The spiritual mind map it has fostered in you is just one of them. You are prima facie evidence.

spiritual mind map? Philosophy and spirituality are not one and the same FMF, you may
philosophise all day until your heart is content it doesn't make you any more spiritual
than the stone you may be sitting upon.

Originally posted by FMF
As "rhetoric" goes, robbie, it is deceitful. I do not profess to "offer salvation to anyone". So to claim - even "rhetorically" that I am making "best efforts" to do so, is to misrepresent what I have been saying.

I did not state that you profess to offer salvation to anyone, indeed a rhetorical
question does not seek and answer, does it, making this latest little machination pure
moot! I understand it might be the best you can do.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
see the article RJH, it mentions this very fact!

What article?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
spiritual mind map? Philosophy and spirituality are not one and the same FMF.

Well I didn't expect you to like the reason I gave you. I do not want to emulate or subscribe to the "spiritual" teaching you offer.

you may philosophise all day until your heart is content it doesn't make you any more spiritual than the stone you may be sitting upon.

Do you think only Jehovah's Witnesses are "spiritual"? Or do you have a list of religious beliefs that you think are more spiritual than a "stone"?

Originally posted by RJHinds
What article?

the watchtower article that was quoted by me in full, it mentions hatred for Satan and
the daemonic hordes.

Originally posted by FMF
Well I didn't expect you to like the reason I gave you. I do not want to emulate or subscribe to the "spiritual" teaching you offer.

[b]you may philosophise all day until your heart is content it doesn't make you any more spiritual than the stone you may be sitting upon.

Do you think only Jehovah's Witnesses are "spiritual"? Or do you have a list of religious beliefs that you think are more spiritual than a "stone"?[/b]

seeing that you have no alternative to offer other than your own self certified opinions
and are simply content to promulgate them to others despite their lack of efficacy, what
makes you think they have any more spiritual content than a stone?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I did not state that you profess to offer salvation to anyone, indeed a rhetorical
question does not seek and answer, does it, making this latest little machination pure
moot! I understand it might be the best you can do.

You said "you cannot , despite your best efforts, hope to offer salvation to anyone, can you?" But I am not trying to to offer salvation to anyone, robbie. I am not making any best efforts to do so. If I had not "answered" the deceitful suggestion contained in your "rhetorical question" then you might have thought you had made a point, whereas I have drawn attention to the misconception/straw man that the point is based on.