"Eternal Torture" persuasion & genuine "love"

Originally posted by KellyJay
No, just don't care to talk to you about it.
Kelly

There's some good ol' Christian love.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
There's some good ol' Christian love.

Yea, more than likely not one of my better statements, but truthful.
Kelly

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You continue to make the same fundamental mistake over and over and over. Rather that spout your own false doctrine try reading the Bible:

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? (Hebrews 10:26-29 KJV)


Did you read it? In a nutshell

IF YOU SIN AFTER YOU RECEIVE CHRIST .. NO MORE GRACE.

Yes Christians will sin and they then rely on repentance and forgiveness from Christ. They have used up their grace. Grace wipes the slate clean and gives a believer a fresh start but you cannot continue on in sin believing that Christ death will pay for all your future sins. Thinking that you can is 'bull .. that is what you Brits call 'TOSH'.

YES some Christians will go to hell, wherever and whatever that is. They will be punished, destroyed, wiped out, annihilated, thrown in the lake of fire.

Originally posted by FMF
So why is this element/belief present in Christian theology? It strikes me as being a human invention ~ a product of superstitious imagination. What is "divine" about it to you if you admit that it could not work?

Because sometimes people act out of fear. If people turned away from God because they are frightened of some other power, that implies the other power is greater than God. A religion like that would be overwhelmed by worshippers of a scary god like Baron Samedi, or Mars, or Kali, or Huitzilopotchtli.

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No, I got a bad attitude towards you, you'll get an answer. Again, my bad.
Kelly

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The debt was owed to God, Jesus paid it for us and God; however, we can
reject Jesus' gift. A gift cannot be earned, but it can be rejected.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
The debt was owed to God, Jesus paid it for us and God; however, we can
reject Jesus' gift. A gift cannot be earned, but it can be rejected.
Kelly

What debt? How much was it?

I must have been wasted because I don't remember borrowing from any deity.

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The way was made for all of us to be saved, every single one without
exception. The was made, but not everyone will find it, or take if they do!
It is the saddest thing I can I think about, knowing that all who are going
to Hell didn't need to. There are those that that love their sin, those that
think that Jesus death and rising from the dead wasn't enough they have
to earn it still, those that think it is all a joke, those that are self righteous,
and so on.
Kelly

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What the Bible says has nothing to do with me or you.

You are a scatter brain. Focus on what the Bible says.

Originally posted by KellyJay
It is the saddest thing I can I think about, knowing that all who are going
to Hell didn't need to.

For things we imagine to make us sad sometimes is a part of the human condition. But I would say that finding something in your imagination to be "the saddest thing [that one] can think about", to me, is the human spirit misdirected and its capacity possibly being squandered.