Originally posted by roigam That's right.
Jesus was Michael in his prehuman life.
He was Jehovah's firstborn and through him all things were created,
Michael had to give up his position and angelic nature to become a man.
(Philippians 2:7) No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human.
(1 Corinthians 15:47) The first man is from the earth and made of dust; the ...[text shortened]... r their works were wicked.
So, again, not all accept Jesus as a man.
I love to do my homework!
None of those verses is a proof text supporting the idea that Jesus was the angel Michael.
What's more, the term "firstborn" as it relates to Jesus in the New Testament, is never used as a term describing the relationship between God the Father and Jesus Christ. Never.
Originally posted by karoly aczel If what he did was enough then why all these other religions?
you do realize that Christians are not the majority religion, right?
Because none of the other religions are from God. When Jesus said He was the Way, the
Truth, and the Light, being the Word of God made flesh He did not lie, He is it. No matter
what, any other attempt to please God other than the one God Himself setup will be
acceptable to God. Man saying he knows how isn't going to make it.
Originally posted by KellyJay Because none of the other religions are from God. When Jesus said He was the Way, the
Truth, and the Light, being the Word of God made flesh He did not lie, He is it. No matter
what, any other attempt to please God other than the one God Himself setup will be
acceptable to God. Man saying he knows how isn't going to make it.
All religions claim to offer truth about the divine. Christianity tenders nothing unique in this regard.
Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke All religions claim to offer truth about the divine. Christianity tenders nothing unique in this regard.
Christianity revolves around Jesus Christ, those that reject Him or belittle the need for Him miss the point. If they turn Christ into some formula of religious laws or works, they don't look to God for His grace, instead they look to establish their own righteousness before God, not unlike all the other religions of man.
Originally posted by KellyJay Because none of the other religions are from God. When Jesus said He was the Way, the
Truth, and the Light, being the Word of God made flesh He did not lie, He is it. No matter
what, any other attempt to please God other than the one God Himself setup will be
acceptable to God. Man saying he knows how isn't going to make it.
Oh come now, surely this just depends on where you were born.
If you had been born in India you would surely realize that there is the One Spirit that moves through all things however there are several gods.
And the first writings of "God" were the Upanishads - scholarly speaking.
Remember that Hinduism is not an exclusive religion, when the Buddha came along with his new ideas Hinduism adapted and made him the 16th avatar of Hinduism.
If your religion does not change with the times and acknowledge other "spiritualities", then, in my eyes, it is a dead religion.
Originally posted by KellyJay Because none of the other religions are from God. When Jesus said He was the Way, the
Truth, and the Light, being the Word of God made flesh He did not lie, He is it. No matter
what, any other attempt to please God other than the one God Himself setup will be
acceptable to God. Man saying he knows how isn't going to make it.
It claims to have a unique nature because of Jesus having died for our sins.
But I say that's baloney. If he was a real man, I have no doubt he wielded the 'force' with grace and poise, but to say that your "salvation" depends on anothers death is just wrong.
It's misplaced loyalty,paying allegiance and obedience to the wrong master.
And we all know who our real masters are . Ourselves of course.
We can try to incorporate this very disorientating fact into our lives, or we can continue to sleep by the kids version of spirituality.
Originally posted by KellyJay Christianity revolves around Jesus Christ, those that reject Him or belittle the need for Him miss the point. If they turn Christ into some formula of religious laws or works, they don't look to God for His grace, instead they look to establish their own righteousness before God, not unlike all the other religions of man.
I don't belittle nor disregard Jesus.
But there is no "God" you realize that right.
God is merely the light and photons and crap moving through all things. It is the mana of the universe.
It is not a divine entity.
Don't you think Jesus is sick of all you guys just 'revolving around him' ?
Do you think that people that revolve around spiritual figures are misguided?
Because you have said nothing that supplants any other thing that has been said by others. In fact, if anything, many Christian values seem to be based on Hinduism