Originally posted by robbie carrobie
As far as I am aware, being a christian is not synonymous with being a murderer,
therefore naturally i oppose such an action as unjust.

So you endorse capital punishment for murder but oppose it for apostasy?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
As far as I am aware, being a christian is not synonymous with being a murderer,
therefore naturally i oppose such an action as unjust.

So you disagree with G75 where he said?:

God has not told these govermental agencies not to execute such ones.
So personally I detest what he did and if Jehovah allows an execution to happen then it must be deserving...

Or are you saying that you believe God "unjust" in this case?

Originally posted by FMF
So you endorse capital punishment for murder but oppose it for apostasy?

I dont endorse or oppose capital punishment for murder, its a matter for the
governments. Are you having trouble reading, comprehending and assimilating the
details of my text, tell you what ill put it in capital letters in case your glasses have
steamed up,

I DO NOT ENDORSE NOR OPPOSE CAPITAL PUNISHMENT FOR MURDER, ITS A MATTER
FOR THE GOVERNMENT.

Please tell me if you are having any more difficulty understanding this text.

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
So you disagree with G75 where he said?:

God has not told these govermental agencies not to execute such ones.
So personally I detest what he did and if Jehovah allows an execution to happen then it must be deserving...

Or are you saying that you believe God "unjust" in this case?

sorry i dont understand your question.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I DO NOT ENDORSE NOR OPPOSE CAPITAL PUNISHMENT FOR MURDER, ITS A MATTER FOR THE GOVERNMENT.

So you neither endorse nor oppose capital punishment for murder, but you oppose it for anything else?

Originally posted by FMF
So you neither endorse nor oppose capital punishment for murder, but you oppose it for anything else?

capital punishment for something that is not a murder is unjust, is it not? In the case of murder its a matter for the governments.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
capital punishment for something that is not a murder is unjust, is it not?

I asked you earlier if you opposed capital punishment and you said "I do not oppose or endorse it, its a matter for the governments as I have consistently
stated." Isn't it then also "a matter for the governments" as to what is punishable by capital punishment?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
In the case of murder its a matter for the governments.

Why "in the case of murder"?

Was capital punishment only for murder in the Bible?

Originally posted by FMF
I asked you earlier if you opposed capital punishment and you said "I do not oppose or endorse it, its a matter for the governments as I have consistently
stated." Isn't it then also "a matter for the governments" as to what is punishable by capital punishment?

Governments may make rules for what they see as fit and proper, a christian of course
is under duress to obey this arrangement, but only relatively so, for we are under
relative subjection to these government authorities. They may not forcibly coerce us
into accepting anything which transgresses the law of the Christ.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
[Governments] may not forcibly coerce us into accepting anything which transgresses the law of the Christ.

What actions/crimes did Christ think should be punished by the death penalty?

Originally posted by FMF
Why "in the case of murder"?

Was capital punishment only for murder in the Bible?

The Bible itself does not oppose capital punishment for murder.

Originally posted by FMF
What actions/crimes did Christ think should be punished by the death penalty?

Cannot say without researching it. The Law of the Christ is that we are to love God and
others as ourselves.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
sorry i dont understand your question.

Okay, I'll simplify by breaking it down into steps.

G75 said the following:

God has not told these govermental agencies not to execute such ones.
So personally I detest what he did and if Jehovah allows an execution to happen then it must be deserving...

G75 plainly states that "if Jehovah allows an execution to happen then it must be deserving".

Do you agree with G75?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Cannot say without researching it. The Law of the Christ is that we are to love God and
others as ourselves.

This sounds like a dodge. You said "In the case of murder its a matter for the governments" implying that in cases that are not murder, the death penalty is unjust. What does the bible have to say about the death penalty?

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Okay, I'll simplify by breaking it down into steps.

G75 said the following:

God has not told these govermental agencies not to execute such ones.
So personally I detest what he did and if Jehovah allows an execution to happen then it must be deserving...

G75 plainly states that "if Jehovah allows an execution to happen then it must be deserving".

Do you agree with G75?

This appears to me to be the Gmans personal opinion, which he is entitled to express, I
myself have formed no consensus on whether a punishment is deserving or not, its a
matter for the governments. The Bible does not oppose capital punishment.