Originally posted by Agerg Robbie Carrobie, over to you explain :]
Hmmm, you never heard of putting in a disk into a computer and getting
info transfered? So you have God who created DNA able to transfer knowledge
through another input food, and you think that would be out of the question?
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJay Hmmm, you never heard of putting in a disk into a computer and getting
info transfered? So you have God who created DNA able to transfer knowledge
through another input food, and you think that would be out of the question?
Kelly
The funny thing is that each theist seems to have a different explanation (except Robbie, who prefers not to answer).
Originally posted by robbie carrobie not to mention two entirely separate entities.
So what happened to the tree, does it exist or not and if so where is it now? Was Eden on Earth in the first place or did they get kicked into another dimension that happened to include Earth?
Originally posted by twhitehead The funny thing is that each theist seems to have a different explanation (except Robbie, who prefers not to answer).
i have already given the answer and you have already read it otherwise how do you
know each theist has given a different explanation, my my how the silly are caught in
their own cunning.
Originally posted by sonhouse So what happened to the tree, does it exist or not and if so where is it now? Was Eden on Earth in the first place or did they get kicked into another dimension that happened to include Earth?
It was on earth, there are geographical features such as rivers named, unless of
course you think the Tigris was in another dimension.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie i have already given the answer and you have already read it otherwise how do you
know each theist has given a different explanation, my my how the silly are caught in
their own cunning.
I clearly stated that you were not included in the "every theist" list. Do you not have the word 'except' up there in Scotland?
And if you had already given the answer, you wouldn't be chanting your whole 'pearls before swine' nonsense.
Originally posted by twhitehead I clearly stated that you were not included in the "every theist" list. Do you not have the word 'except' up there in Scotland?
And if you had already given the answer, you wouldn't be chanting your whole 'pearls before swine' nonsense.
why don't you read the thread, sumydid managed to find the answer, in fact he
commented that it was a very precise answer, why it should evade you again remains
one of those forum mysteries, perhaps you can explain it?
This apple/intelligence garbage is a self-contradictory and self-defeating argument. The unbeliever first--for the sake of argument--declares the bible literal and true by suggesting that an apple from a tree gives instant knowledge of good and evil. Then, the unbeliever discards all the rest of the bible as untrue, declaring miracles as ment, then you also have to allow for a all-powerful Creator who can make *ANYTHING* happen.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie I did not introduce magic, you did, i did not introduce apples, you did, I did not
introduce talking snakes, you did, just saying and unless you are willing to make
room for a supernatural element, which you are not, then nothing in scripture will
make much sense to you and you will be doing yourself and me a favour by not
wasting our time in ok around for verification of the utter folly of complete moral
independence from God.
So lemme get this straight, eating from that tree of knowledge didn't, contrary to many theists opinions, endow Adam & Eve with any further knowledge or insight?
So what is
before eating: And both of them continued to be naked, the man and his wife, and yet they did not become ashamed. after eating: Then the eyes of both of them became opened and they began to realize that they were naked. Hence they sewed fig leaves together and made loin coverings for themselves.
all about then? Indeed what was it about eating this non-magic fruit that conveyed to them knowledge that they were naked and should cover up if it had no knowledge bestowing properties??? 😕
As for moral independence from "G"od, given the manner in which it throws its dummy from the pram - I'd say any rebellion against it is the precise opposite of folly!
Originally posted by divegeester Are you sure he did; I think he would be quite aware that the 'tree of life' and of the 'tree of the knowledge of good and evil', are symbolic.
His declaration that the garden of Eden was not magical is to be found in the lower half of:
http://www.redhotchess.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=148828&page=1
(where he also declares that the talking snake is actually ventriloquist Satan - though why it would bother is another matter!)
Originally posted by KellyJay Hmmm, you never heard of putting in a disk into a computer and getting
info transfered? So you have God who created DNA able to transfer knowledge
through another input food, and you think that would be out of the question?
Kelly
Well given we're talking about a natural explanation for the transferrence of knowledge please explain in more details the mechanics of how eating fruit instantly gives you knowledge of right and wrong. Indeed where is this information stored in the fruit? how is it stored? and how is this information parsed by us in and after the act of eating it?
If you want to invoke magic then fine, fair enough; but that's a repsonse for a different thread.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie It was on earth, there are geographical features such as rivers named, unless of
course you think the Tigris was in another dimension.
Ok, it was on Earth, then where is the tree? Where is the Tigris mentioned in the bible?
Originally posted by Agerg Well given we're talking about a natural explanation for the transferrence of knowledge please explain in more details the mechanics of how eating fruit instantly gives you knowledge of right and wrong. Indeed where is this information stored in the fruit? how is it stored? and how is this information parsed by us in and after the act of eating it?
If you want to invoke magic then fine, fair enough; but that's a repsonse for a different thread.
As far as I know, God did not reveal how he did it, only that he did it. Perhaps it is beyond humans ability to understand. 😏
06 Oct '12 14:49
Fruit giving instant knowledge of right and wrong to those who eat them (and trees bearing them) has a natural explanation
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