1. Standard memberKellyJay
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    God is good and righteous, so can He both love and hate?
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    12 Dec '18 03:37
    @kellyjay said
    God is good and righteous, so can He both love and hate?
    God hates sin but loves righteousness.

    He has attempted to separate his creation from sin as best he could to avoid his wrath.
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    12 Dec '18 06:40
    @kellyjay said
    God is good and righteous, so can He both love and hate?
    If as you say, you cannot take ANY credit for your salvation, how is it that the non-saved can take the blame for not getting theirs?
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    12 Dec '18 06:41
    @whodey said
    God hates sin but loves righteousness.

    He has attempted to separate his creation from sin as best he could to avoid his wrath.
    What do you mean by “as best he could”?

    Sounds like your version of god is not omnipotent.
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    12 Dec '18 07:23
    @whodey said
    He has attempted
    He must try harder than.
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    @wolfgang59 said
    He must try harder than.
    God gave His Son.
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    @divegeester said
    If as you say, you cannot take ANY credit for your salvation, how is it that the non-saved can take the blame for not getting theirs?
    Because it's their choice.
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    12 Dec '18 10:15
    @secondson said
    God gave His Son.
    Apparently not enough.
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    12 Dec '18 10:59
    @wolfgang59 said
    Apparently not enough.
    Our warped view of God is love is what people use to think that its all going to be
    okay. While God is love, He is also just, and good these are also two things that
    are true and will never stop being true. As a good God will forever hate the wicked,
    the evil, sinners, and will not accept them as these all fall short.

    I heard a sermon the other day that really points to God giving His Son because
    He loved the world, it was in the context if you read the verses 14-15 of John on
    why Jesus said that. He was sharing about a time that the people were
    complaining once again, even though God has been providing for them, even
    though God brought them out of Egypt they were complaining. So serpents were
    sent among them and they were being killed off. God did not removed the
    serpents from among them but did send them a way to be saved. We are not
    yet removed from this wicked world, but God did send us a way to be saved
    Jesus Christ. If we refuse who He sent that is on our heads not His.

    Numbers 21: 4
    From Mount Hor they set out by the way to the Red Sea, to go around the land of Edom. And the people became impatient on the way. And the people spoke against God and against Moses, “Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? For there is no food and no water, and we loathe this worthless food.”

    Jesus speaking
    John 3: 14-18
    And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.


    Jesus is more than enough! Our love for the wickedness and evil we do keep us
    from acknowledging Him for who He is, and loving God and each other as we
    should.
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    @kellyjay said
    As a good God will forever hate the wicked,
    the evil, sinners, and will not accept them as these all fall short.
    Nice.
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    @kellyjay said
    God is good and righteous, so can He both love and hate?
    Sicko.
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    12 Dec '18 11:18
    @secondson said
    Because it's their choice.
    But if making the wrong "personal" choice is why people are taking the blame, how come those people who make the right personal choice don't get any of the credit?

    KellyJay (who is childishly ignoring me - again) is claiming that there is no credit due to people for making this "choice"... so how can there be any blame?
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    12 Dec '18 11:20
    @kellyjay said
    Our warped view of God
    This thing is KellyJay, what you really me is "YOUR" warped view of god.

    Isn't it?
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    @wolfgang59 said
    Sicko.
    Really you, yourself don't hate it when men do evil things and like it when they
    are kind?
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    12 Dec '18 11:24
    @kellyjay said
    As a good God will forever hate the wicked,
    the evil, sinners, and will not accept them as these all fall short.
    You could not be more wrong. Your comment is completely erroneous, and unscriptural.

    Romans 5: 8
    "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

    John 3:16
    "For God so loved the world (sinners) that he gave is only son...)

    You are wrong KellyJay.
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