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Originally posted by DoctorScribblesGen 9:6 Whosoever sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed.
Name three.
Not all murderers are murdered by man. Some die peacefully in their sleep. In order for this verse to be true, it is necessary for a murder to be reborn so that he/she may be killed by man.
Matt 26:52 Then Jesus said unto them, Put up again thy sword into its place; for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
Here Jesus says the same thing.
Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
Here Jesus says that the soul who overcomes the world and finds God will be able to stay in Heaven forever and not leave it again.
Rev 3:21: To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my father in his throne.
Here Jesus says that this is how he become one with God as well.
John 3:17 For God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. (NKJ)
This is what the Christ came here to do.
Isa. 55:11 so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.
Phil. 1:6 He will finish the work that He has begun.
These verses tell us that God will do exactly that.
I Tim 2:3-4 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our savior. 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
Rom. 14:11 It is written: `As surely as I live,' says the Lord, `every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.'
Both these verses speak of what will happen in the end. All will go back to God.
In Matthew 18:23-35 Jesus describes what happens to a soul who goes to hell.
Matt 18:34 And his Lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormenters, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
Verse 34 indicates that hell is just to burn off our sins, and repay our debt. After that the soul is released again.
Edit: There are plenty more, but 10 should be enough.
Originally posted by The Chess ExpressI'm sorry, but I didn't see it in a single one. Many of the verses you cite could have a universalist interpretation, but I see nothing in them about reincarnation.
Gen 9:6 Whosoever sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed.
Not all murderers are murdered by man. Some die peacefully in their sleep. In order for this verse to be true, it is necessary for a murder to be reborn so that he/she may be killed by man.
Matt 26:52 Then Jesus said unto them, Put up again thy sword into its place; for a ...[text shortened]... that the soul is released again.
[b]Edit: There are plenty more, but 10 should be enough.[/b]
Originally posted by The Chess ExpressYour fast and loose interpretation (so-called by you) of Scripture would fit well within an entire season of Twilight Zones, but is as far removed from reality as the same.
Ok, then you won't be convinced by any of the others.
It's almost as though you are not even reading the same language, the logic is thusly twisted.
By your convoluted renderings, the Lord Jesus Christ needs to come back and put His physical heel on the head of Satan while the latter is in the form of a serpent. Holy crap, dude.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHHow would you explain this verse?
Your fast and loose interpretation (so-called by you) of Scripture would fit well within an entire season of Twilight Zones, but is as far removed from reality as the same.
It's almost as though you are not even reading the same language, the logic is thusly twisted.
By your convoluted renderings, the Lord Jesus Christ needs to come back and put His physical heel on the head of Satan while the latter is in the form of a serpent. Holy crap, dude.
Gen 9:6 Whosoever sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed.
Do you believe that the authorities capture and kill every murder?
How do you explain why God allows some babies to be born under such horrible conditions? If the soul didn’t deserve it, God wouldn’t be just would he?
Originally posted by The Chess ExpressWhat goes around, comes around.........sometimes.
How would you explain this verse?
Gen 9:6 Whosoever sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed.
Do you believe that the authorities capture and kill every murder?
How do you explain why God allows some babies to be born under such horrible conditions? If the soul didn’t deserve it, God wouldn’t be just would he?
Originally posted by The Chess ExpressWhat prevents you from interpreting this verse as a legal injunction against a murderer? Is this not a reasonable interpretation?
So you read Gen 9:6 as saying “Whosoever sheddeth man’s blood, [b]sometimes by man shall his blood be shed."
I like to read the verses the way that they appear and not edit them.[/b]
Originally posted by kirksey957That’s exactly how I intrepret it. It’s a legal injunction from God.
What prevents you from interpreting this verse as a legal injunction against a murderer? Is this not a reasonable interpretation?
Do you think people get away with things? That is, do you think that God doesn’t know about everything that we do? Furthermore, do you think that every murderer is captured and killed by the authorities?
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHBy your convoluted renderings, the Lord Jesus Christ needs to come back and put His physical heel on the head of Satan while the latter is in the form of a serpent.
Your fast and loose interpretation (so-called by you) of Scripture would fit well within an entire season of Twilight Zones, but is as far removed from reality as the same.
It's almost as though you are not even reading the same language, the logic is thusly twisted.
By your convoluted renderings, the Lord Jesus Christ needs to come back and put His ...[text shortened]... ysical heel on the head of Satan while the latter is in the form of a serpent. Holy crap, dude.[/b]
I can't help but wonder how you arrived at this conclusion. First of all, I never said that. Secondly, If you are a Christian you should know that Jesus never left this earth.
Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come into him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
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Originally posted by The Chess ExpressWhat? Is the ascension account bogus?
Secondly, If you are a Christian you should know that Jesus never left this earth.
Both the Apostles Creed and the Nicene Creed assert that Jesus ascended from earth into heaven.
Christians who recite these creeds explicitly assert that Jesus did leave the earth.
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesLuke 24:51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into Heaven.
What? Is the ascension account bogus?
Jesus ascended into Heaven right?
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! Or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Where do you think Heaven is?
Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come into him, and will sup with him, and he with me.