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Originally posted by josephwBe that as it may ~ I can't recall any "downright malignant" questions recently, but I don't doubt there have been a few over the years ~ that aside, there are many here who believe in God and act as if questions about their beliefs are attempts to "criticize" them, even when they are just normal questions that arise on a debate and discussion forum designed for precisely that subject matter ~ like this one is.
Come on now FMF. Criticism isn't in short supply around here, especially against those who hold to belief in the what the Bible says.
Some of the criticisms made are down right malignant, both against the God of the Bible and those who trust in it's truths. I doubt many are skillful enough to remain objective enough to refrain from attacking the messenger.
Originally posted by josephwI believe in 'a God', if my God differs than yours.......too bad. Your opinion is the exact reason that atheists have a field day. You 'josephw' have NO clue who the real God is. You don't.......and if you think you do.....then you are crazy.
[b]"Who among us truly knows about God?"
I do. You can say I don't, but that's just you saying it, and you ain't God enough to know whether or not anyone else does or doesn't.
God has made Himself known. If you don't know Him that's your problem, but don't be so presumptuous as to assume nobody else does either.[/b]
Originally posted by chaney3"I just want the truth about God, and I don't ever think I will know it."
I believe in a God. I have no idea who that God is. I cannot call myself a Christian because I don't understand the trinity. I was rude to you and I am sorry.
I just want the truth about God, and I don't ever think I will know it.
I have answered your question divegeester.
Keep thinking that way and you never will.
2 Corinthians 4:6
For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
Colossians 1:15
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
There's the truth you've been looking for. The Bible says what God wants you to know. Trust His Word.
Originally posted by josephw and chaney3"Who among us truly knows about God?"
Originally posted by josephw
I do. You can say I don't, but that's just you saying it, and you ain't God enough to know whether or not anyone else does or doesn't. God has made Himself known. If you don't know Him that's your problem, but don't be so presumptuous as to assume nobody else does either.
Originally posted by chaney3
I believe in 'a God', if my God differs than yours.......too bad. Your opinion is the exact reason that atheists have a field day. You 'josephw' have NO clue who the real God is. You don't.......and if you think you do.....then you are crazy.
Oh my. We just need Dasa to turn up now and we are in business. 😵
Originally posted by FMFYou never answered my question FMF.....what is your religion or belief????
If you think that the "Bible is BS" and "false, and man made", why are you concerned with the ideology and mythology it propagates?
I will answer......my only image of God has come from the Bible, from a very young age. But, I am beginning to think that this image of God is false. I do not understand all that is in the Bible, nor Jesus, nor God. But, as I stated in my OP, this does not exclude God from the horror of the Old Testament.
I would be willing to talk further FMF, but......only if you tell me your beliefs. I will wait.
Originally posted by josephwDon't be silly, his Op and whole thread is about how he is concerned with the ideology and mythology the Bible propagates. You say the silliest things. You should read the thread and then take a breath before you post stuff. He has referred to "our Bible" countless times and he is deeply troubled by its content. For you to say he is NOT concerned with the ideology and mythology the Bible propagates is just silly.
He's not! He doesn't understand it any better than you do.
Originally posted by chaney3Going through hell aren't you old boy!
I believe in 'a God', if my God differs than yours.......too bad. Your opinion is the exact reason that atheists have a field day. You 'josephw' have NO clue who the real God is. You don't.......and if you think you do.....then you are crazy.
If you want to know God you'll have to go through His Son. That's the way it is. The sooner you drop your defenses the sooner you'll know.
Originally posted by chaney3What I believe with regard to the issue you raised in your OP is abundantly clear. Pretending that it hasn't been clear ~ in order to dodge question after question, comment after comment, all of them point blank and relevant ~ has been the ugliest aspect of your behaviour on this thread and the most dysfunctional side of the discussion that you seem to have been trying to sabotage yourself since page 1..
You never answered my question FMF.....what is your religion or belief????
I will answer......my only image of God has come from the Bible, from a very young age. But, I am beginning to think that this image of God is false. I do not understand all that is in the Bible, nor Jesus, nor God. But, as I stated in my OP, this does not exclude God from the h ...[text shortened]... I would be willing to talk further FMF, but......only if you tell me your beliefs. I will wait.
Originally posted by josephwDo you believe that there is vengeance and punishment by way of eternal torture for non-believers at the hands of the Christian God that you believe in? [Bump]
What are you talking about? I've discussed hell with you before. The problem is you don't like what I say about it. Probably because you don't like what the Bible says about it either.
Originally posted by josephwI take offense at your statement. Jews would too. Muslims would too. Buddhists would too. What makes you think you have the knowledge of the universe??? You are blind.
Going through hell aren't you old boy!
If you want to know God you'll have to go through His Son. That's the way it is. The sooner you drop your defenses the sooner you'll know.
Originally posted by FMFI don't need you defining me or what I post. I know what I'm about.
Don't be silly, his Op and whole thread is about how he is concerned with the ideology and mythology the Bible propagates. You say the silliest things. You should read the thread and then take a breath before you post stuff. He has referred to "our Bible" countless times and he is deeply troubled by its content. For you to say he is NOT concerned with the ideology and mythology the Bible propagates is just silly.
If you're so blind you can't see that chaney is confused, then perhaps you should go back and reassess what you've been posting.
Originally posted by chaney3I don't have the knowledge of the universe. Don't be so outlandishly rediculous!
I take offense at your statement. Jews would too. Muslims would too. Buddhists would too. What makes you think you have the knowledge of the universe??? You are blind.
But God does. Pure logic. Even you know that.
Originally posted by josephwMore blurted out silliness. I have not suggested that chaney3 is not confused. But for you to suggest he is NOT concerned with the ideology and mythology the Bible propagates and is not deeply troubled by its content is just silly, silly silly. Take a moment to consider what you are saying before you press 'Post'..
I don't need you defining me or what I post. I know what I'm about.
If you're so blind you can't see that chaney is confused, then perhaps you should go back and reassess what you've been posting.