God's Defense Lawyers

Originally posted by chaney3
Are you crazy? You have been the most obtuse person on this site. You criticize everyone else, and never claim anything for your own. Only when you face your fears will I be interested in your puny beliefs.

Are you then claiming that your own beliefs are something other than "puny"?

If your beliefs are in some way not "puny", why on earth have you been dodging and deflecting so much in the face of straight forward questions about them page after page after page on your own thread?

Originally posted by chaney3
You criticize everyone else, and never claim anything for your own.

Well you certainly aren't the only one in this community who believes in God and who acts as if every question about your belief is an attempt to "criticize" you. 😠

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".., you (like many of the Chrisitans here) stay well away from the "hell" discussions."

What are you talking about? I've discussed hell with you before. The problem is you don't like what I say about it. Probably because you don't like what the Bible says about it either.

This isn't an attack geester. I've responded to you about hell in other threads, but you don't seem to hear what I say about it. Instead you seem to interpret what I say to mean what you want to hear. At least that's how is sounds to me!

Originally posted by chaney3
I don't find it strange anymore how you have been accused of being gay with your gay friend dive. Funny how I direct points to him, and you intervene. Gay people aside. [...] The gay relationship between dive and FMF should not interfere. Thank you.

Does this kind of thing work for you when you're discussing stuff with people you disagree with in real life ~ in the workplace, at your kids' school, at home?

Originally posted by josephw
What are you talking about? I've discussed hell with you before. The problem is you don't like what I say about it. Probably because you don't like what the Bible says about it either.

Do you believe that there is vengeance and punishment by way of eternal torture for non-believers at the hands of the Christian God that you believe in?

Originally posted by josephw
I've responded to you about hell in other threads, but you don't seem to hear what I say about it.

Take this opportunity to say something unequivocal about it.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
At this current point in my life i do not believe that God exists. (And i don't make this statement lightly, as have studied the subject at length). I am however always open to possibilities, but it would require some first hand experience for me to believe in the existence of God. There is no book or human being who could ever move me away from my atheism. I would have to encounter God directly.

Ghost................that was the perfect answer. Who among us truly knows about God? Nobody. As I said in my OP, our only knowledge of God comes from the Bible, and who is to say that the Bible is from God. Maybe someday we will get first hand proof, but, it does not seem likely.

Originally posted by chaney3
Are you crazy? You have been the most obtuse person on this site.

Well, no. I don't think you are right. See my post at the top of page 8. Far from being obtuse, judging by what you eventually admitted yourself, I hit the nail on the head with my very first response to your OP on page 1.

Originally posted by chaney3
...our only knowledge of God comes from the Bible....

Does it? Haven't you yourself just now said "I think that our Bible is BS" and "Our Bible is false, and man made." On what basis are you now claiming "knowledge of God" comes from it?

Originally posted by FMF
Well you certainly aren't the only one in this community who believes in God and who acts as if every question about your belief is an attempt to "criticize" you. 😠

Come on now FMF. Criticism isn't in short supply around here, especially against those who hold to belief in the what the Bible says.

Some of the criticisms made are down right malignant, both against the God of the Bible and those who trust in it's truths. I doubt many are skillful enough to remain objective enough to refrain from attacking the messenger.

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I believe in a God. I have no idea who that God is. I cannot call myself a Christian because I don't understand the trinity. I was rude to you and I am sorry.

I just want the truth about God, and I don't ever think I will know it.

I have answered your question divegeester.

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I have a really good answer to this question.

Originally posted by chaney3
Ghost................that was the perfect answer. Who among us truly knows about God? Nobody. As I said in my OP, our only knowledge of God comes from the Bible, and who is to say that the Bible is from God. Maybe someday we will get first hand proof, but, it does not seem likely.

"Who among us truly knows about God?"

I do. You can say I don't, but that's just you saying it, and you ain't God enough to know whether or not anyone else does or doesn't.

God has made Himself known. If you don't know Him that's your problem, but don't be so presumptuous as to assume nobody else does either.