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From the blog of the gunman who opened fire and killed three people in a LA Fitness gym in Pennsylvania on August 4, 2009
"Maybe soon, I will see God and Jesus. At least that is what I was told. Eternal life does NOT depend on works. If it did, we will all be in hell. Christ paid for EVERY sin, so how can I or you be judged BY GOD for a sin when the penalty was ALREADY paid."
While his actions were extremely egregious, the beliefs exhibited here are very much like many Christians including posters on this forum. How much do these types of beliefs affect actions they take? Especially when coupled with the belief that it is impossible for them not to sin? It seems it would allow them to help "justify" pretty much any transgression against their fellow man to themselves whether big or small.
05 Aug 09
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneChrist paid for every sin but we have to REPENT to get it forgiven,
From the blog of the gunman who opened fire and killed three people in a LA Fitness gym in Pennsylvania on August 4, 2009
"Maybe soon, I will see God and Jesus. At least that is what I was told. Eternal life does NOT depend on works. If it did, we will all be in hell. Christ paid for EVERY sin, so how can I or you be judged BY GOD for a sin when the pe ...[text shortened]... " pretty much any transgression against their fellow man to themselves whether big or small.
If it was impossible for us not to sin than, 1. their would be no hell, 2. what would be the point of laws?
05 Aug 09
Originally posted by daniel58Yeah .. repent and it will be forgiven.
Christ paid for every sin but we have to REPENT to get it forgiven,
If it was impossible for us not to sin than, 1. their would be no hell, 2. what would be the point of laws?
I have a Catholic friend who regularly has sex with men other than her husband during the week and then goes to confession and all is forgiven. Its a great arrangement if you are a brainwashed Catholic.
05 Aug 09
Originally posted by Rajk999That doesn't make it right, not all do it though.
Yeah .. repent and it will be forgiven.
I have a Catholic friend who regularly has sex with men other than her husband during the week and then goes to confession and all is forgiven. Its a great arrangement if you are a brainwashed Catholic.
05 Aug 09
Originally posted by Rajk999I don’t agree with that myself. In my opinion, part of the repentance process is to never do it again. If you do, then you haven’t repented.
Yeah .. repent and it will be forgiven.
I have a Catholic friend who regularly has sex with men other than her husband during the week and then goes to confession and all is forgiven. Its a great arrangement if you are a brainwashed Catholic.
05 Aug 09
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Originally posted by whiteknight26Well you could repent, mean not to do it again, then do it later, then what you're saying you can only repent once?
I don’t agree with that myself. In my opinion, part of the repentance process is to never do it again. If you do, then you haven’t repented.
05 Aug 09
Originally posted by daniel58Repentance is a long and difficult process the way I look at it. There are certain steps one must go through at least the way I see it. The ultimate goal of repentance is that you are not going to commit that sin again. There is very little information to go on here to continue what this particular person has been through already. Has she sought counseling for example?
Well you could repent, mean not to do it again, then do it later, then what you're saying you can only repent once?
05 Aug 09
Originally posted by daniel58But the Catholic priest tells her that she is forgiven.
Yes, if she TRULY repents.
She has TRULY repented.
(I take it there is a difference between 'truly' and 'TRULY'😉 ... 😀
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So at what point will stupid Catholics realise that this confession and forgiven nonsense is a sham and an insult to Christ?
05 Aug 09
Originally posted by daniel58I think he's making a distinction between saying you've repented and actually repenting. You can say you've repented, want to repent or think you've repented any number of times. Actual repentance involves not committing the sin again, so you can only repent once.
Well you could repent, mean not to do it again, then do it later, then what you're saying you can only repent once?
05 Aug 09
Originally posted by Rajk9997x70
But the Catholic priest tells her that she is forgiven.
She has TRULY repented.
(I take it there is a difference between 'truly' and 'TRULY'😉 ... 😀
And she does it again and she TRULY repents again.
And the priest tells her that she is TRULY forgiven.
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And the priest tells her that she is TRULY forgive ...[text shortened]... holics realise that this confession and forgiven nonsense is a sham and an insult to Christ?
05 Aug 09
Originally posted by daniel58So, if she repents every week, she can continue banging all the guys she wants for over 9 years. If she's smarter and only repents, say, every month, she can be adulterous for 40 years.
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The important thing is to make sure to die after a repentance, to avoid getting caught with [pardon the pun] her pants down.
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06 Aug 09
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Originally posted by SwissGambitWell if she repents immediately after adultery her odds are pretty good. Unless she gets hit by a bus on the way to church.
So, if she repents every week, she can continue banging all the guys she wants for over 9 years. If she's smarter and only repents, say, every month, she can be adulterous for 40 years.
The important thing is to make sure to die after a repentance, to avoid getting caught with [pardon the pun] her pants down.
The whole Christian concept of sin and repentance and forgiveness is a complete joke. You cannot undo what has been done because all of our actions affect ourselves, our families, someone, some part of the world. Our actions cannot simply be undone. Our deeds matter. My suggestion to people would be try compensation rather than repentance for a change or better yet try not being an a&@%ole in the first place.
But silly me for thinking that we should be responsible for our own behavior and not offload the guilt and responsiblity on some dude that got nailed to a cross 2009 years ago.
"I'm a proud heathen and without sin. But there's no forgiveness for what's been done. I want my gods to see my family and my good reputation won."
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06 Aug 09
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneIt isn't a matter of "just" beliefs, Satan believes and it will do Him no
From the blog of the gunman who opened fire and killed three people in a LA Fitness gym in Pennsylvania on August 4, 2009
"Maybe soon, I will see God and Jesus. At least that is what I was told. Eternal life does NOT depend on works. If it did, we will all be in hell. Christ paid for EVERY sin, so how can I or you be judged BY GOD for a sin when the pe ...[text shortened]... " pretty much any transgression against their fellow man to themselves whether big or small.
good towards God. Jesus even says, "Why do you call me Lord and do
not the things I say?" I am very sure someone who has given their
lives to Christ will be transformed by Christ and their lives will not
reflect such horror as we are also told by their fruits we will know them.
It is a matter of relationship, a cheap belief system that gives people
a relationshipless life with Jesus Christ is still a belief system that does
not have Jesus Christ. Those in such belief systems will hear the words,
"Depart from me, I never knew you.", and they will be cast into a fire
that will never end.
Kelly