Originally posted by KellyJayexcept it is not the same thing. one needs cars. one needs knives to butter their bread and cut through tomatoes and beer cans.
A friend of mine said something the other day I thought touched this, I don't
know if it started with him or not.
"You beat up a man with your bare hands and killed him,
what is wrong with you?
You beat up a man with a baseball bat and killed him,
what is wrong with you?
You stabbed a man with a knife and killed him,
what is wrong with you?
You go ...[text shortened]... ou shot a man with a gun,
ban guns."
This about sums up gun control in my opinion.
Kelly
one doesn't need to drive tanks. one doesn't need to carry a broadsword.
and one doesn't need guns, except in some wild west fantasy. and certainly not in what is supposedly one of the most civilized countries in the world. and one definitely doesn't need an assault rifle and armor piercing bullets. and one shouldn't be able to buy them at walmarts.
Originally posted by RJHindsif the woman is a rape victim, it is not "her" baby. if a woman is ill and carrying the baby to term would present a risk to her life, the woman is more important. if a kid makes a mistake and becomes pregnant at 12, the live kid is more important than the unborn one. if only in those cases, for the government to fund abortions would be the decent human thing to do. also, government funded sex education, real sex education not that abstinence idiocy.
I want the women to try to save their babies instead of killing them. We call it abortion instead of murder, but I don't see how that makes it morally right. 😏
that would take care of your "the govnmn't wanna kill our younguns" point. how about the soup kitchens for the homeless? how about the medical care for people who cannot afford your inhuman medical insurance? are those evil too? should the government scrap those programs too because you, the righteous christian, whine that it is wrong to take your money? because you, the righteous christian, cry whenever the government asks you to behave more like a christian?
Originally posted by ZahlanziThere is now reason we should settle on saving the life of the baby or the mother. We should try to save them both. 😏
if the woman is a rape victim, it is not "her" baby. if a woman is ill and carrying the baby to term would present a risk to her life, the woman is more important. if a kid makes a mistake and becomes pregnant at 12, the live kid is more important than the unborn one. if only in those cases, for the government to fund abortions would be the decent human thi ...[text shortened]... righteous christian, cry whenever the government asks you to behave more like a christian?
Originally posted by ZahlanziIt is the exact samething, guns can be used for other things as your hands,
except it is not the same thing. one needs cars. one needs knives to butter their bread and cut through tomatoes and beer cans.
one doesn't need to drive tanks. one doesn't need to carry a broadsword.
and one doesn't need guns, except in some wild west fantasy. and certainly not in what is supposedly one of the most civilized countries in the world. a ...[text shortened]... ssault rifle and armor piercing bullets. and one shouldn't be able to buy them at walmarts.
knives, baseball bats, it is the act of killing that is the wrong here not the tool.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJaywhat things can guns be used for other than killing?
It is the exact samething, guns can be used for other things as your hands,
knives, baseball bats, it is the act of killing that is the wrong here not the tool.
Kelly
that is why your analogy is useless. you don't ban cars because some people might misuse them and hurt people. guns however hurt people regardless of how they are used. that is their purpose. that is why only the most responsible people must use them, and ban everyone else.
driving requires licence. we don't allow blind or retarded or irresponsible people to drive. yet the way you are acting is as if guns are a right instead of a sad necessity. as if it is not a privilege that only a select few would be allowed to use, never enjoy. you act as if everyone is entitled to one. you act as if guns are fun. this is insane. you as a country glorify violence. you shudder at the sight of two women or two men kissing, yet rambo killing a fukton of ruskies is considered an american role model. you retch at government sponsored healthcare (meaning it is funded by american tax dollars) but you spend billions on wars, on NRA, on malls and clothes you only wear once.
priorities, values, you has them not.
Originally posted by RJHindsyet you aren't the one required to risk her life to carry to term a pregnancy that has a high chance of killing her.
There is now reason we should settle on saving the life of the baby or the mother. We should try to save them both. 😏
you aren't the one required to carry the child of your rapist, as if dealing with that trauma wasn't enough.
bold words coming from a man, someone who has to risk or sacrifice exactly nothing when it comes to pregnancy.
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Originally posted by ZahlanziIT IS WRITTEN!!!
yet you aren't the one required to risk her life to carry to term a pregnancy that has a high chance of killing her.
you aren't the one required to carry the child of your rapist, as if dealing with that trauma wasn't enough.
bold words coming from a man, someone who has to risk or sacrifice exactly nothing when it comes to pregnancy.
To the woman He said:
“I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception;
In pain you shall bring forth children;
Your desire shall be for your husband,
And he shall rule over you.”
Genesis, Chapter 3
Originally posted by ZahlanziWell I'm sorry but sometimes killing is called for, when a family is under
what things can guns be used for other than killing?
that is why your analogy is useless. you don't ban cars because some people might misuse them and hurt people. guns however hurt people regardless of how they are used. that is their purpose. that is why only the most responsible people must use them, and ban everyone else.
driving requires l ...[text shortened]... , on NRA, on malls and clothes you only wear once.
priorities, values, you has them not.
attack defending the family by killing the attackers is called for. We have guns
to kill as well as hunting and other things, but killing is necessary, if you can
wipe out the need for killing guns may not be necessary, but banning guns
will only take them out of the hands of those that obey the law, not the ones
that don't care about how many laws they break as they come into your
home to steal and do harm.
Kelly
Originally posted by ZahlanziI have them, your brain is just turned off to the point.
what things can guns be used for other than killing?
that is why your analogy is useless. you don't ban cars because some people might misuse them and hurt people. guns however hurt people regardless of how they are used. that is their purpose. that is why only the most responsible people must use them, and ban everyone else.
driving requires l ...[text shortened]... , on NRA, on malls and clothes you only wear once.
priorities, values, you has them not.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayAre all American christians gun-happy? I always thought you guys were supposed to love thy neighbour, not shoot him. He probably wouldn't be burgling you anyway if you looked after your poor, downtrodden masses a bit better.
Well I'm sorry but sometimes killing is called for, when a family is under
attack defending the family by killing the attackers is called for. We have guns
to kill as well as hunting and other things, but killing is necessary, if you can
wipe out the need for killing guns may not be necessary, but banning guns
will only take them out of the hands of tho ...[text shortened]... care about how many laws they break as they come into your
home to steal and do harm.
Kelly
Originally posted by avalanchethecatGod bless you son.........pass me them there bullets.
Are all American christians gun-happy? I always thought you guys were supposed to love thy neighbour, not shoot him. He probably wouldn't be burgling you anyway if you looked after your poor, downtrodden masses a bit better.
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Originally posted by avalanchethecatJesus answered the question as to who is your neighbor. He identifies that one that goes out of his way to help you when you are in need. We Christians do love that kind of person and would not think of shooting him.
Are all American christians gun-happy? I always thought you guys were supposed to love thy neighbour, not shoot him. He probably wouldn't be burgling you anyway if you looked after your poor, downtrodden masses a bit better.
I am not gun-happy. I had enough experience with guns during my 20 years in the military to last me a lifetime. I developed a high-frequency hearing loss due to firing them so much. Be sure to wear ear plugs or some other hearing protectors, if you fire them very much. At my age I do not go hunting or even to the rifle range anymore. I haven't fired a gun in many years now and do not desired to do so. However, I want to reserve the right to own a gun in case it becomes necessary to use one. 😏
P.S. Now, I am only a member of the National Rifle Association, because I want to protect that right!!
Originally posted by avalanchethecatYea I all for helping anyone who wants or needs it, but I do draw the line where
Are all American christians gun-happy? I always thought you guys were supposed to love thy neighbour, not shoot him. He probably wouldn't be burgling you anyway if you looked after your poor, downtrodden masses a bit better.
some wants to do harm to my family.
Kelly