Guns????

Originally posted by RJHinds
This is just more evidence that the prophecied last days are upon us. Amazing.

why? the world has always had a huge drug problem. what do you think is different now to the past?

Originally posted by RJHinds
This is just more evidence that the prophecied last days are upon us. Amazing.

mathematically what is the most extreme date for the last days?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
yes we do.

do you really think america is the only country with a massive drugs problem?!?!?!?

using your logic america would have a bigger drugs problem, but it doesnt its roughly the same as europe.

we have huge areas of cities that are lost to a welfare-drug-culture. the town i grew up in was recently voted the worst place to live in the uk ...[text shortened]... ve drugs you have drugs, so thats not the reason....why else do you have a more violent society?

I didn't say it was the only country with a massive drug problem, you should read
the posts and glean from them what I was stressing.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I didn't say it was the only country with a massive drug problem, you should read
the posts and glean from them what I was stressing.
Kelly

ive read it a few times now. you seem to be saying america has drug cartels on its door-step that have an invested interest in selling drugs.

im not sure why you think this makes americans more violent than europeans?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
ive read it a few times now. you seem to be saying america has drug cartels on its door-step that have an invested interest in selling drugs.

im not sure why you think this makes americans more violent than europeans?

"do you have a country on your border that grows the drugs"
Location, location, location...if you were next the source of the issues you faced
you'd see a lot of effort keeping that source safe from the good guys.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
"do you have a country on your border that grows the drugs"
Location, location, location...if you were next the source of the issues you faced
you'd see a lot of effort keeping that source safe from the good guys.
Kelly

sorry, youve lost me. we were discussing why you think americans are more violent than europeans. are you saying americans are violent because your neighbors grow drugs?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
sorry, youve lost me. we were discussing why you think americans are more violent than europeans. are you saying americans are violent because your neighbors grow drugs?

You asked why I said drugs, you wanted to compare your drug issue to the
US, I said when you have a border that is large as ours with a country that
grows and sells drugs your 'drug' issue will be much worse.

Again, just having guns is not a cause to shot people, it is the issues that are
in play that cause it and drugs and other like issues bring this about as drug
wars occur and so on, people steal to buy and use, the issue isn't guns it is
the reasons the guns are being used.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
You asked why I said drugs, you wanted to compare your drug issue to the
US, I said when you have a border that is large as ours with a country that
grows and sells drugs your 'drug' issue will be much worse.

Again, just having guns is not a cause to shot people, it is the issues that are
in play that cause it and drugs and other like issues bring th ...[text shortened]... steal to buy and use, the issue isn't guns it is
the reasons the guns are being used.
Kelly

okay, im following you now.


america has roughly the same levels of drug abuse as great britain.

http://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/WDR2012/WDR_2012_web_small.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_prevalence_of_opiates_use

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annual_cannabis_use_by_country

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_prevalence_of_cocaine_use

your drug issue is not worse. so that leaves us still looking for a reason as to why americans are supposedly more violent.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
ive read it a few times now. you seem to be saying america has drug cartels on its door-step that have an invested interest in selling drugs.

im not sure why you think this makes americans more violent than europeans?

I think he is talking about those Mexicans, but I am sure he is not being racist. 😏

Originally posted by KellyJay
You asked why I said drugs, you wanted to compare your drug issue to the
US, I said when you have a border that is large as ours

Given the same population density the larger a country is the
smaller its border per capita. And the US has in fact
disporoportionately small land borders due to being bounded
by the Pacific & Atlantic.

The total US land border is some 1,000 km shorter than the EU's.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
okay, im following you now.


america has roughly the same levels of drug abuse as great britain.

http://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/WDR2012/WDR_2012_web_small.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_prevalence_of_opiates_use

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annual_cannabis_use_by_country

http://en.wikipedia.org/w ...[text shortened]... e. so that leaves us still looking for a reason as to why americans are supposedly more violent.

If you were following me now you'd see I have pointed out to you something
quite different between the two nations. Either you see it and do not want
to acknowledge it, or your blind to views that do not agree with yours I'm not
sure which.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
If you were following me now you'd see I have pointed out to you something
quite different between the two nations. Either you see it and do not want
to acknowledge it, or your blind to views that do not agree with yours I'm not
sure which.
Kelly

you are stating that america has mexico (i presume you mean mexico rather than canada) on your border and that mexico is producing drugs and selling them in america.

as great britain has roughly the same amount of drugs per head in the country as the u.s. then we can figure out from this that taking drugs is not the issue.

so what is the relevance of mexico on your border. are you suggesting people in the u.s. are more violent with each other because of your neighbors.

obviously, as youve pointed out im not understanding you. but i cant see where you have explained the connection between having a drug producer on your doorstep and a u.s. citizens being violent with each other??

Originally posted by stellspalfie
you are stating that america has mexico (i presume you mean mexico rather than canada) on your border and that mexico is producing drugs and selling them in america.

as great britain has roughly the same amount of drugs per head in the country as the u.s. then we can figure out from this that taking drugs is not the issue.

so what is the relevance ...[text shortened]... ween having a drug producer on your doorstep and a u.s. citizens being violent with each other??

America has illegal aliens, numbnuts.

Originally posted by RJHinds
America has illegal aliens, numbnuts.

as do most developed economies.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
you are stating that america has mexico (i presume you mean mexico rather than canada) on your border and that mexico is producing drugs and selling them in america.

as great britain has roughly the same amount of drugs per head in the country as the u.s. then we can figure out from this that taking drugs is not the issue.

so what is the relevance ...[text shortened]... ween having a drug producer on your doorstep and a u.s. citizens being violent with each other??

I've repeated my point to you three times now, you don't want to see it.
Kelly