Hardening of heart.

Hardening of heart.

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Originally posted by @eladar
It means only those who do. The topic is not about that. The topic is what causes one to follow God as opposed to rejecting God.

Of course there is also the subset of those who reject God, but believe they accept him. These are people who believe a lie.
"Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:" -- Luke 6:37, KJV

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Originally posted by @eladar
The evidence fpr predestination is on romans 9.
And so you admit that you're adding to the words of the Bible.

You insert your meaning into the scripture. Why?

Still pissed that there is no "Book of Eladar" where Jesus says it's okay to be a bigot?

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Originally posted by @eladar
No, he is not tricking. You are simply making a faulty assumption. Funny how you think rhe only way you cpuld have a false belief based om faulty assumption is for God to trick you.

Is it tricking people for God to write his truth in some hearts and not others?
Why did God command Adam not to eat of the tree if Adam had no choice? Did God predestine Adam to sin or did Adam choose to disobey God?

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Originally posted by @eladar
No, he is not tricking. You are simply making a faulty assumption. Funny how you think rhe only way you cpuld have a false belief based om faulty assumption is for God to trick you.

Is it tricking people for God to write his truth in some hearts and not others?
I'm sure I'm not the only one here who is glad that your twisted Christianity is not my Christianity.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
So in your mind 'common use' means damnation? 🙄
How many types of people does Paul describe? The discussion is about who God loves and who God hates. In that context the noble have eternal life and the common are the dead.

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Originally posted by @suzianne
I'm sure I'm not the only one here who is glad that your twisted Christianity is not my Christianity.
Most people are glad to reject God in this life.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Why did God command Adam not to eat of the tree if Adam had no choice? Did God predestine Adam to sin or did Adam choose to disobey God?
That's a human question, just as asking why punish me if I am just doing what you created me to do?

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Originally posted by @eladar
That's a human question, just as asking why punish me if I am just doing what you created me to do?
I think you view God as a pety small thing, incapable of actually giving us the ability to make choices on our own so that we can be held accountable to them. You want to be free of your shortcomings by suggesting it is all God's fault not yours for your sins, you had no choice in anything!

God created a universe and with it made us in His image, after that sin entered us and we lost our way, becoming sinners whose focus is upon ourselves, our desires. You it seems wants to paint God in the same light.

You really do need God's love, grace, and mercy, as do we all.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
I think you view God as a pety small thing, incapable of actually giving us the ability to make choices on our own so that we can be held accountable to them. You want to be free of your shortcomings by suggesting it is all God's fault not yours for your sins, you had no choice in anything!

God created a universe and with it made us in His image, after ...[text shortened]... o paint God in the same light.

You really do need God's love, grace, and mercy, as do we all.
I view God as Paul describes.

You judge God and reject him for a more politically correct god.

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Originally posted by @eladar
I view God as Paul describes.

You judge God and reject him for a more politically correct god.
I'm not judging God in any way.
I'm saying that Jesus came to save sinners, and as sinners we can trust God's promises

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Originally posted by @eladar
How many types of people does Paul describe? The discussion is about who God loves and who God hates. In that context the noble have eternal life and the common are the dead.
So quote the verse that says God hates people. God hates sin, there's a difference you know.

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Originally posted by @eladar
That's a human question, just as asking why punish me if I am just doing what you created me to do?
God created you with the ability to either obey or disobey him, the choice is yours.

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Originally posted by @chaney3
Why would God harden the heart of Pharaoh?

The plagues could have been avoided if Pharaoh utilized his own free will.

God intervened to make sure the plagues happened.
What exactly IS 'hardening of heart'? Taken at face value, I would think it meant that person would not care what happens to people, but what is your take?

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Originally posted by @eladar
That's a human question, just as asking why punish me if I am just doing what you created me to do?
You realize every single question you see is from a human, even yours!

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Originally posted by @eladar
That's a human question, just as asking why punish me if I am just doing what you created me to do?
You're the one claiming that.