Hardening of heart.

Originally posted by @eladar
Everything about Jesus that I have stated is absolutely true and is only ugly in the eyes of natural man.

You think the Spiritual man would find those things, uplifting? How corrupt are you?
Seriously, in the eyes of the natural man you would drag Jesus' name through the mud,
to prove what, how stinking spiritual you think you are? You ever seen anyone in scripture
filled with the Spirit of God say such things about Jesus Christ?

You and maybe the demon's of hell think those things apply to Christ, I'm sure there were
a few of them laughing their butts off as you declare your asinine view of Jesus Christ.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
You think the Spiritual man would find those things, uplifting? How corrupt are you?
Seriously, in the eyes of the natural man you would drag Jesus' name through the mud,
to prove what, how stinking spiritual you think you are? You ever seen anyone in scripture
filled with the Spirit of God say such things about Jesus Christ?

You and maybe the demon' ...[text shortened]... e were
a few of them laughing their butts off as you declare your asinine view of Jesus Christ.

I'd say nether uplifting nor depressing, simply is.

Only those rooted in modern socital values would consider what I write about Jesus distressing.

Originally posted by @eladar
I'd say nether uplifting nor depressing, simply is.

Only those rooted in modern socital values would consider what I write about Jesus distressing.

Yes, so someone who views Jesus Christ as you do then goes on to tell others how to
view scripture by telling us what it means. is a source I think I do not care to listen too,
You foul your own belief system, then expect others to think its a good place to go? Dogs
know enough to not poop and eat in the same area but you it seems do not grasp that..

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Yes, so someone who views Jesus Christ as you do then goes on to tell others how to
view scripture by telling us what it means. is a source I think I do not care to listen too,
You foul your own belief system, then expect others to think its a good place to go? Dogs
know enough to not poop and eat in the same area but you it seems do not grasp that..

If you call believing what the Bible says fouling a belief system, that's your concern.

Continue turning a blind eye to scripure and receive your reward.

Originally posted by @eladar
If you call believing what the Bible says fouling a belief system, that's your concern.

Continue turning a blind eye to scripure and receive your reward.

It is your views not scripture I have an issue with.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
It is your views not scripture I have an issue with.

My views as in believing what scripture says.

For instance, why would God say the younger will serve the younger before they are even born?

Why do you deny God's proclamation that he would harden Pharaoh's heart? Why do you claim that Pharaoh rejects God first when the Bible never makes the claim? Why do you add to scripture?

Originally posted by @eladar
My views as in believing what scripture says.

For instance, why would God say the younger will serve the younger before they are even born?

Why do you deny God's proclamation that he would harden Pharaoh's heart? Why do you claim that Pharaoh rejects God first when the Bible never makes the claim? Why do you add to scripture?

You not only didn't understand the scripture you are talking about, you even are confused as
to what I have said, and I have been repeating myself to you.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
You not only didn't understand the scripture you are talking about, you even are confused as
to what I have said, and I have been repeating myself to you.

I have mentioned more than one scripture. Your statement is as nebulous as your theology. You claim to believe something but in actuality it is nothing.

All of my attempts to actually discuss something results in you going on about some tangent changing the subject. You do this because your beliefs are based on man's ramblings, not the scriptures in question.

Originally posted by @eladar
I have mentioned more than one scripture. Your statement is as nebulous as your theology. You claim to believe something but in actuality it is nothing.

All of my attempts to actually discuss something results in you going on about some tangent changing the subject. You do this because your beliefs are based on man's ramblings, not the scriptures in question.

I've given you countless scriptures.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
I've given you countless scriptures.

None of which deals with the topic, only your assumptions about what those scriptures imply.

I've already called you on that.

Originally posted by @eladar
None of which deals with the topic, only your assumptions about what those scriptures imply.

I've already called you on that.

You don't see the connections because you don't grasp the topic.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
You don't see the connections because you don't grasp the topic.

Exodus 4

When you return to Egypt, see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders I have given you the power to do. But I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go. 22 Then say to Pharaoh, ‘This is what the Lord says: Israel is my firstborn son, 23 and I told you, “Let my son go, so he may worship me.” But you refused to let him go; so I will kill your firstborn son.’”



So tell me where God says, but you refused me on your own so you I allowed you to harden your heart.

Quote scripture in order of occurance please. This was Exodus 4. Do we have an earlier place where Pharaoh first hardened his own heart?

Your games of side stepping and deception grow old.

Originally posted by @eladar
Exodus 4

When you return to Egypt, see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders I have given you the power to do. But I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go. 22 Then say to Pharaoh, ‘This is what the Lord says: Israel is my firstborn son, 23 and I told you, “Let my son go, so he may worship me.” But you refused to let him go; ...[text shortened]... ere Pharaoh first hardened his own heart?

Your games of side stepping and deception grow old.

Had you actually taken the time to read what I have said, you'd seen I agreed with that
scripture. God harden his heart by showing Him God's power, and telling him what God
wanted from him. The reaction to God was a hardening of the heart.

Originally posted by @eladar
My views as in believing what scripture says.

For instance, why would God say the younger will serve the younger before they are even born?

Why do you deny God's proclamation that he would harden Pharaoh's heart? Why do you claim that Pharaoh rejects God first when the Bible never makes the claim? Why do you add to scripture?

The Bible clearly says 'Pharaoh hardened his heart' and 'God hardened Pharaohs heart'. If it was God in both instances why the distinction?

Originally posted by @eladar
My views as in believing what scripture says.

For instance, why would God say the younger will serve the younger before they are even born?

Why do you deny God's proclamation that he would harden Pharaoh's heart? Why do you claim that Pharaoh rejects God first when the Bible never makes the claim? Why do you add to scripture?

For instance, why would God say the younger will serve the younger before they are even born?

Because God is not confined by time and space and knew what choices they were going to make ahead of time?