Originally posted by @kellyjayI am responding to your question.
Why are not responding to my answer instead of repeating your question.
God so loved the world that he gave his only son.
The net result is only a very few benefit from Jesus' sacrifice. For most people, Jesus' sacrifice doesn't change a thing.
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Originally posted by @eladarDoes the word 'whosoever' apply to everyone or only a select few?
I am responding to your question.
God so loved the world that he gave his only son.
The net result is only a very few benefit from Jesus' sacrifice. For most people, Jesus' sacrifice doesn't change a thing.
24 Aug 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerIt means only those who do. The topic is not about that. The topic is what causes one to follow God as opposed to rejecting God.
Does the word 'whosoever' apply to everyone or only a select few?
Of course there is also the subset of those who reject God, but believe they accept him. These are people who believe a lie.
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24 Aug 17
Originally posted by @eladarSo if I said whosoever wants to come to my wedding may do so, would this be an open invitation to everyone or only to a select few?
It means only those who do. The topic is not about that. The topic is what causes one to follow God as opposed to rejecting God.
Of course there is also the subset of those who reject God, but believe they accept him. These are people who believe a lie.
24 Aug 17
Originally posted by @eladarYes, whosoever will is not the same thing as ONLY God is picking who He wants without
It means only those who do. The topic is not about that. The topic is what causes one to follow God as opposed to rejecting God.
Of course there is also the subset of those who reject God, but believe they accept him. These are people who believe a lie.
us at all. His will is just that, not sure why you seem to reject it.
24 Aug 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerDid you create the people who you are inviting? Could you write the desire to come to your wedding on their hearts?
So if I said whosoever wants to come to my wedding may do so, would this be an open invitation to everyone or only to a select few?
Originally posted by @kellyjayI never said it did. The evidence fpr predestination is on romans 9. The scripture you brought up simply does not contradict romans 9.
Yes, whosoever will is not the same thing as ONLY God is picking who He wants without
us at all. His will is just that, not sure why you seem to reject it.
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Originally posted by @eladarSo you are saying that God is tricking us into believing we have free will when actually we don't? 🙄
Did you create the people who you are inviting? Could you write the desire to come to your wedding on their hearts?
I asked you this before and you dodged it. If we have no free will, where did evil come from if not from our own choosing? Did God predestine Adam to sin? Or did Adam choose to disobey God?
24 Aug 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerNo, he is not tricking. You are simply making a faulty assumption. Funny how you think rhe only way you cpuld have a false belief based om faulty assumption is for God to trick you.
So you are saying that God is tricking us into believing we have free will when actually we don't? 🙄
I asked you this before and you dodged it. If we have no free will, where did evil come from if not from our own choosing? Did God predestine Adam to sin? Sorry but that makes no sense.
Is it tricking people for God to write his truth in some hearts and not others?
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Originally posted by @eladarIs it fair if no one has a choice? How is it fair if God created someone to be damned regardless of what they do?
No, he is not tricking. You are simply making a faulty assumption. Funny how you think rhe only way you cpuld have a false belief based om faulty assumption is for God to trick you.
Is it tricking people for God to write his truth in some hearts and not others?
24 Aug 17
Originally posted by @dj2becker19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”[h] 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?
Is it fair if no one has a choice? How is it fair if God created someone to be damned regardless of what they do?
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Originally posted by @eladarSo in your mind 'common use' means damnation? 🙄
19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”[h] 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?
