Hate is easy

@Of-Ants-and-Imps said
@Indonesia-Phil
Sounds like you have ants in your pants, haha just kidding.

It's okay, best not to take all of this too seriously...

@Indonesia-Phil said
Well, I don't quite understand what you're getting at in most of your post, but taking your first two sentences, I think this 'I'm all right Jack' attitude which prevails amongst Christians on these forums is what strikes one. If you happen to have lived before Christ (is said to have) turned up, or believe in a different prophet, or god, or are born with the wrong gen ...[text shortened]... s here, and all that we receive in return is a deafening silence, or a convenient change of subject.

To be a Christian is not to deny science, actually to be an Atheist would be flying that flag. The universe's intelligibility doesn't speak to mindless processes, so when you see things set up in such a way they can be read, or the design is so precise that it doesn't lend itself to mindlessness. There iscause found in the universe, that speaks to God, not vice versa. Even looking at all of this, your mind if it is the product of a mindless process why trust it, you shoot yourself in the head denying our minds are the products of an undirected process and you trust it for understanding.

@KellyJay said
To be a Christian is not to deny science

Science tells us that the universe is incredibly old and that we evolved as a species.

As a Christian, do you not deny that?


If you do deny it, then stop claiming you do not deny science.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Science tells us that the universe is incredibly old and that we evolved as a species.

As a Christian, do you not deny that?


If you do deny it, then stop claiming you do not deny science.

You are delusional even if the universe is incredibly old you have no explanation for it, and an old universe doesn’t add to the possibility that life could start by chance and necessity.

Just as when we see a book written that shows an author was involved, our ability to recognize language and read it is proof of an author is the same type of evidence we have when it comes to the genetic code it carries instructions for forms and features we can read an identity whatever life that is represented in the DNA.

You ignore all of that because you wish to stay in denial so you proclaim we cannot know. It isn’t that we can not know it is you don’t want to acknowledge what is clearly in front of you!

@KellyJay said
You are delusional even if the universe is incredibly old you have no explanation for it, and an old universe doesn’t add to the possibility that life could start by chance and necessity.

Just as when we see a book written that shows an author was involved, our ability to recognize language and read it for proof of an author is the same type of evidence we have when it co ...[text shortened]... now. It isn’t that we can not know it you don’t want to acknowledge what is clearly in front of you!

You are delusional.........Full stop.

And you have a monopoly on denial. As I've said before, it's depressing.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
You are delusional.........Full stop.

And you have a monopoly on denial. As I've said before, it's depressing.

I am not the one refusing to acknowledge that reading and writing requires a mind, and that God is the only answer for everything in the material universe and the immaterial parts as well. You are the one whose explanation is “I don’t know!”

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
You are delusional.........Full stop.

And you have a monopoly on denial. As I've said before, it's depressing.

What specifically do you think I am ignoring in science, I have shared what you are ignoring!

@KellyJay said
What specifically do you think I am ignoring in science, I have shared what you are ignoring!

"So you agree with science’s findings on the age of the earth and the amount of time which Homo sapiens have been on it then? "

Perhaps start by answering Dive's question.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
"So you agree with science’s findings on the age of the earth and the amount of time which Homo sapiens have been on it then? "

Perhaps start by answering Dive's question.

How about you reply to who you want to, and I'll do the same, and not bring up your choices on that!

@KellyJay said
To be a Christian is not to deny science, actually to be an Atheist would be flying that flag. The universe's intelligibility doesn't speak to mindless processes, so when you see things set up in such a way they can be read, or the design is so precise that it doesn't lend itself to mindlessness. There iscause found in the universe, that speaks to God, not vice versa. Even ...[text shortened]... head denying our minds are the products of an undirected process and you trust it for understanding.

Belief in supernatural causation and superstition are the antithesis of science, until you understand that, you understand nothing.

@KellyJay said
To be a Christian is not to deny science, actually to be an Atheist would be flying that flag. The universe's intelligibility doesn't speak to mindless processes, so when you see things set up in such a way they can be read, or the design is so precise that it doesn't lend itself to mindlessness. There iscause found in the universe, that speaks to God, not vice versa. Even ...[text shortened]... head denying our minds are the products of an undirected process and you trust it for understanding.

By the way, do you agree with the findings of science regarding the age of the earth, and for how long homo sapiens have been around?

@Indonesia-Phil said
By the way, do you agree with the findings of science regarding the age of the earth, and for how long homo sapiens have been around?

You act as if someone says science says that somehow is otherworldly and must be true when in fact it is just other people telling us what they think with cause. One of your many issues is you cannot think for yourself, you assume without being able to at least explain it to a child or anyone else. YOUR BELIEFS about the age of the earth do not mean squat on how long people are here because you have NO clue how the earth got here or people so how long is a question you cannot address.

@Indonesia-Phil said
By the way, do you agree with the findings of science regarding the age of the earth, and for how long homo sapiens have been around?

I don't know, I believe in a young earth, but cannot prove it even if everyone in this conversation believed the Bible is the Word of God it doesn't address the age of the earth only the process and some of that has the timing nonspecific. There is nothing we have even with science looking for the age of the universe because we again don't know how it started, so its starting configuration could be expansive in size which would lead us to make false assumptions when looking at stars light.