@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidDo you believe in time and relativity, if so exactly how do you know how old the universe is when the only observer who could is God? Everyone else depending on where they were standing would time it differently?
"So you agree with science’s findings on the age of the earth and the amount of time which Homo sapiens have been on it then? "
Perhaps start by answering Dive's question.
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@KellyJay saidI don't need to know exactly how old the universe is, or precisely when it begun, in order to discount the notion of a 'young Earth.' We know enough to know it is billions of years old and that our our species has been around for millions of years. Science has taught us this, science you claim your Christian belief doesn't reject.
Do you believe in time and relativity, if so exactly how do you know how old the universe is when the only observer who could is God? Everyone else depending on where they were standing would time it differently?
Clinging to the notion that humans arrived fully formed in a garden thousands of years ago is about as far from science as you can get. Own it and stop making false claims about not denying science.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidYou believe your beliefs are facts is the bottom line.
I don't need to know exactly how old the universe is, or precisely when it begun, in order to discount the notion of a 'young Earth.' We know enough to know it is billions of years old and that our our species has been around for millions of years. Science has taught us this, science you claim your Christian belief doesn't reject.
Clinging to the notion that humans ...[text shortened]... t as far from science as you can get. Own it and stop making false claims about not denying science.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidDoubting a theory is not denying science it is science, you are the one here with dogma, when asked how old it is, my answer is I don't know. You on the other hand are claiming sure knowledge.
I don't need to know exactly how old the universe is, or precisely when it begun, in order to discount the notion of a 'young Earth.' We know enough to know it is billions of years old and that our our species has been around for millions of years. Science has taught us this, science you claim your Christian belief doesn't reject.
Clinging to the notion that humans ...[text shortened]... t as far from science as you can get. Own it and stop making false claims about not denying science.
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@KellyJay saidSuch scientific knowledge is verifiable. Belief in humans starting out a few thousand years ago in a garden is not. (Cough, cough dinosaurs).
You believe your beliefs are facts is the bottom line.
Seriously Kelly, the evidence for an old Earth is overwhelming, and yes 'factual.' Annual rock and ice layerings reveal a million years of Earth history, while geologic rates of mountain building, erosion and plate tectonics show hundreds of millions of years at work.
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@KellyJay said'Theory' doesn't mean what you think it means, in a scientific context. (It is not like having a theory that Elvis is alive and well and working in a chip shop in Barnsley).
Doubting a theory is not denying science it is science, you are the one here with dogma, when asked how old it is, my answer is I don't know. You on the other hand are claiming sure knowledge.
'A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world and universe that can be (or a fortiori, that has been) repeatedly tested and corroborated in accordance with the scientific method, using accepted protocols of observation, measurement, and evaluation of results. Where possible, theories are tested under controlled conditions in an experiment. In circumstances not amenable to experimental testing, theories are evaluated through principles of abductive reasoning. Established scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and embody scientific knowledge.' (Wiki).
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidAnd every single dot of it is subject to change, or do you believe there is some point in time where are theories are facts because we like them so much?
'Theory' doesn't mean what you think it means, in a scientific context. (It is not like having a theory that Elvis is alive and well and working in a chip shop in Barnsley).
'A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world and universe that can be (or a fortiori, that has been) repeatedly tested and corroborated in accordance with the scien ...[text shortened]... shed scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and embody scientific knowledge.' (Wiki).
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidYou simply do not have any observable facts to test or evaluate concerning life's beginning or why it operates following the genetic code it obeys to create features and forms, you have nothing to observe or test concerning the origins of the universe, you don't know why it is here, you don't know what it looked like when it began, how large or small it was, you don't know why the universe is expanding, you don't know why gravity behaves it does. Bottom line YOU blow smoke every time you make a claim your views are true because some science you cannot explain the details on only talk as if it is settled.
'Theory' doesn't mean what you think it means, in a scientific context. (It is not like having a theory that Elvis is alive and well and working in a chip shop in Barnsley).
'A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world and universe that can be (or a fortiori, that has been) repeatedly tested and corroborated in accordance with the scien ...[text shortened]... shed scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and embody scientific knowledge.' (Wiki).
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidThe "NATURAL" world is full of material and immaterial parts and features, you have no explanation for both of those, and you are limited to the material with no clue where and when the jump to the immaterial occurred. There is so much you don't know and you act as if you do, you are delusional.
'Theory' doesn't mean what you think it means, in a scientific context. (It is not like having a theory that Elvis is alive and well and working in a chip shop in Barnsley).
'A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world and universe that can be (or a fortiori, that has been) repeatedly tested and corroborated in accordance with the scien ...[text shortened]... shed scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and embody scientific knowledge.' (Wiki).
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidIt isn't my fault you think no agreeing with the status quo is a rejection of science altogether, nor is it my fault that you are under the impression you think your beliefs are facts without being able to explain the mechanisms behind them that make them so, that is all on you. I've given you some of the reasoning behind my beliefs you only insult me as if I should know better because I do not agree with you, you are not that important.
@KellyJay
Seriously Kelly, educate yourself. It's embarrassing.