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    31 May '15 17:48
    Originally posted by divegeester
    So you are saying that ideal US President would be an atheist?
    Are you suggesting that one cannot make public policy without being influenced by their religious beliefs?
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    31 May '15 18:07
    Originally posted by whodey
    So you are OK with Hillary making policy decisions based upon what she thinks Jesus would do even though you may not agree with them?

    Got it.
    You don't seem to understand the concept of support for freedom of speech including for the exercise of that right by those who one disagrees with.
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    31 May '15 18:321 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Are you suggesting that one cannot make public policy without being influenced by their religious beliefs?
    Yes.

    Are you suggesting based on your comments on the first page that you think an atheist would be the ideal candidate rather than a theist? Fourth time of asking.
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    31 May '15 21:161 edit
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Yes.

    Are you suggesting based on your comments on the first page that you think an atheist would be the ideal candidate rather than a theist? Fourth time of asking.
    Progs will say what they have to say in order to get elected.

    Last time I checked, all Presidential candidates seem to claim to be religious. I highly doubt they are. My guess is that is what they are told to get elected.

    It's like Obama telling everyone that their health care costs will not go up and they can keep their own coverage. He also claims to be a Christian but never goes to church.

    Progs need to lie, otherwise on one would vote for them. If they were forced to tell the truth, democracy would crush them
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    31 May '15 21:27
    Originally posted by whodey
    Progs will say what they have to say in order to get elected.

    Last time I checked, all Presidential candidates seem to claim to be religious. I highly doubt they are. My guess is that is what they are told to get elected.

    It's like Obama telling everyone that their health care costs will not go up and they can keep their own coverage. He also claims ...[text shortened]... e on one would vote for them. If they were forced to tell the truth, democracy would crush them
    Firth time of asking this simple question:

    Are you suggesting based on your comments on the first page that you think an atheist would be the ideal candidate rather than a theist?
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    31 May '15 22:141 edit
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Firth time of asking this simple question:

    Are you suggesting based on your comments on the first page that you think an atheist would be the ideal candidate rather than a theist?
    I assume they are all atheists. After all, they lie, steal, and kill with impunity. They obviously don't think they will ever be held accountable by a higher power

    Then again, maybe they are like you and just don't believe in a hell.
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    31 May '15 22:42
    Originally posted by whodey
    I assume they are all atheists. After all, they lie, steal, and kill with impunity. They obviously don't think they will ever be held accountable by a higher power

    Then again, maybe they are like you and just don't believe in a hell.
    Whodey, please, this is the 6th time I've asked you.

    Are you suggesting based on your comments on the first page that you think an atheist would be the ideal candidate rather than a theist?
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    01 Jun '15 01:15
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Whodey, please, this is the 6th time I've asked you.

    Are you suggesting based on your comments on the first page that you think an atheist would be the ideal candidate rather than a theist?
    Are you looking for a Yes or No answer? 😏
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    01 Jun '15 01:37
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Firth time of asking this simple question:

    Are you suggesting based on your comments on the first page that you think an atheist would be the ideal candidate rather than a theist?
    Firth time of asking this simple question.

    Did you looth a toot?
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    01 Jun '15 01:43
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Firth time of asking this simple question:

    Are you suggesting based on your comments on the first page that you think an atheist would be the ideal candidate rather than a theist?
    Because whodey's political 'sincerity' and willy-waving is measured out in how facetious and puerile he can be, he has backed himself into a rhetorical corner. Of course he thinks people he agrees with can and should make public policy whilst being influenced by their religious beliefs, but his inchoate dislike of Hillary Clinton and desire to attack her completely obliterates any coherence in his 'argument'. Your unanswered question goes straight to the heart of this.
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    01 Jun '15 01:44
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Are you looking for a Yes or No answer? 😏
    Yeth... he is looking for a Yeth or No answer.
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    01 Jun '15 02:481 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/28/hillary-clinton-gives-rare-glimpse-into-her-christian-faith/

    We got a rare look, and I do mean rare, at Hillary Clinton's religious beliefs.

    She seems to be driven to spread "social justice" in the name of Jesus.

    Is this a violation of church and state? Is she a fundamentalist wacko?
    Is she a fundamentalist wacko?

    No, she is fundamentally an opportunist. This may not appear wacko to those who support her, because they know supporting her is the most efficient way of achieving their own goals. It's wacko for her to try convincing people she believes something she doesn't actually believe, but nevertheless this can work for her. It's a proven strategy... it definitely works, so we can count on seeing more of this behavior until the election. And then after election it will be business as usual.

    As an aside, I think Obama did her a favor by getting the nod to run for president instead of her. imo she has a better chance of becoming president this time around, assuming she is chosen to run this time around... "Clinton fatigue" is still a factor.

    Remember when a conservative talk show host was encouraging democrats to choose Hillary for the nomination instead of Obama?
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    01 Jun '15 03:10
    Originally posted by lemon lime
    [b]Is she a fundamentalist wacko?

    No, she is fundamentally an opportunist. This may not appear wacko to those who support her, because they know supporting her is the most efficient way of achieving their own goals. It's wacko for her to try convincing people she believes something she doesn't actually believe, but nevertheless this can work for her. I ...[text shortened]... talk show host was encouraging democrats to choose Hillary for the nomination instead of Obama?
    What do you make of whodey's suggestion [not only on this thread] that a politician expressing or professing Christian beliefs [or religious beliefs in general], or basing their policy formations on them, is "a violation of the separation of church and state"?
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    01 Jun '15 08:53
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Are you looking for a Yes or No answer? 😏
    An answer would be a good place to start. I think Whodey is avoiding responding because he knows very well where I'll take it.
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    01 Jun '15 08:54
    Originally posted by lemon lime
    [b]Firth time of asking this simple question.

    Did you looth a toot?[/b]
    Sixff time of asking actually. 🙂
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