Originally posted by galveston75aint that the truth.
Let me shed a little light on this issue. If you notice the Society said "they hear of reports" of ones selling their homes and getting out of debt. The Society never said themelves to do this to anyone either in private or publicly. My father was an elder at that time and no such letter or report or document or memo from the society was ever printed or ...[text shortened]... g of ones looking for the truth and this was one example of ones that were not.
Originally posted by galveston75But the wrong part of this is some on there own thought armegeddon was going to happen in 75' which was never ever thought of or mentioned by the society.
Let me shed a little light on this issue. If you notice the Society said "they hear of reports" of ones selling their homes and getting out of debt. The Society never said themelves to do this to anyone either in private or publicly. My father was an elder at that time and no such letter or report or document or memo from the society was ever printed or ...[text shortened]... g of ones looking for the truth and this was one example of ones that were not.
Who came up with the year 1975 then?
Originally posted by Proper Knob'some on there own thought' - a ringin any bells?
[b]But the wrong part of this is some on there own thought armegeddon was going to happen in 75' which was never ever thought of or mentioned by the society.
Who came up with the year 1975 then?[/b]
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Originally posted by Proper KnobWho knows. We all new it was a date that was interesting in human history but nothing else. But knowing humans and wanting to know answers as we all do, all it would take is someone to think, hey that would be something if Armegeddon happened to happen then and then someone else to hear that and take it wrong and take off with that and then the snowball affect happens.
[b]But the wrong part of this is some on there own thought armegeddon was going to happen in 75' which was never ever thought of or mentioned by the society.
Who came up with the year 1975 then?[/b]
So your guess is as good as mine.
But I did know a couple people who got caught up in that and as sad it it is they are no longer Witnesses. They put faith in themselves, other humans or dates instead of God and his timetable.
Originally posted by galveston75It was a Watchtower Society publication from 1966 called 'Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God'.
Who knows. We all new it was a date that was interesting in human history but nothing else. But knowing humans and wanting to know answers as we all do, all it would take is someone to think, hey that would be something if Armegeddon happened to happen then and then someone else to hear that and take it wrong and take off with that and then the snowball affect happens.
So your guess is as good as mine.
“In this twentieth century an independent study has been carried on that does not blindly follow some traditional chronological calculations of Christendom, and the published timetable resulting from this independent study gives the date of man’s creation as 4026 B.C.E. So six thousand years of man’s existence on earth will soon be up, yes, within this generation….According to this trustworthy Bible chronology six thousand years from man’s creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E. So six thousand years of man’s existence on earth will soon be up, yes, within this generation….So from the standpoint of Jehovah God these passing six thousand years of man’s existence are but as six days of twenty-four hours,….So in not many years within our own generation we are reaching what Jehovah God could view as the seventh day of man’s existence. How appropriate it would be for Jehovah God to make of this coming seventh period of a thousand years a sabbath period of rest and release, a great Jubilee sabbath for the proclaiming of liberty throughout the earth to all its inhabitants! This would be most timely for mankind. It would also be most fitting on God’s part, for, remember, mankind has yet ahead of it what the last book of the Holy Bible speaks of as the reign of Jesus Christ over earth for a thousand years, the millennial reign of Christ. Prophetically Jesus Christ, when on earth nineteen centuries ago, said concerning himself: “For Lord of the sabbath is what the Son of man is.” (Matthew 12: 8). It would not be by mere chance or accident but would be according to the loving purpose of Jehovah God for the reign of Jesus Christ, the ‘Lord of the Sabbath,’ to run parallel with the seventh millennium of man’s existence.”
pages 26-30
1975 was the date your own organisation came up with.
Originally posted by Proper KnobYou asked who came up with 1975 in the context we were talking about not what it actually was. Of course the Society knew it was a date of interest as it says here clearly. It was 6k years since man was created.
It was a Watchtower Society publication from 1966 called 'Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God'.“In this twentieth century an independent study has been carried on that does not blindly follow some traditional chronological calculations of Christendom, and the published timetable resulting from this independent study gives th ...[text shortened]... ’s existence.”
pages 26-30
1975 was the date your own organisation came up with.
So go back and read this slowly and clearly as to what it is saying. It says that in 1975 we were entering into the 7th millennium of mans existance on this earth. It says it would be appropriate then for God's Sabbith day of rest to happen in this time period.
But no where do they say anything about the end of the world or sysytem or of armegeddon. Do they? Do they say to sell your homes and get out of debt? Do they?
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Originally posted by galveston75You asked who came up with 1975 in the context we were talking about not what it actually was.
You asked who came up with 1975 in the context we were talking about not what it actually was. Of course the Society knew it was a date of interest as it says here clearly. It was 6k years since man was created.
So go back and read this slowly and clearly as to what it is saying. It says that in 1975 we were entering into the 7th millennium of mans ex sysytem or of armegeddon. Do they? Do they say to sell your homes and get out of debt? Do they?
No i didn't, i asked you who came up with the year 1975. I have not mentioned armageddon in this thread at all.
It's you who needs to go back and read this slowly and clearly as to what it is saying.
Originally posted by Proper KnobSorry if I misunderstood then as I would have answered differently as to your question.
[b]You asked who came up with 1975 in the context we were talking about not what it actually was.
No i didn't, i asked you who came up with the year 1975. I have not mentioned armageddon in this thread at all.
It's you who needs to go back and read this slowly and clearly as to what it is saying.[/b]
It's just a point in time and nothing else.
And I have seen this comment before and it is very clear what it is and isn't saying.
Originally posted by Proper Knob"Yes, since the summer of 1973 there have been new peaks in pioneers every month. Now there are 20,394 regular and special pioneers in the United States, an all-time peak. That is 5,190 more than there were in February 1973! A 34-percent increase! Does that not warm our hearts? Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and pla ...[text shortened]... icked world's end."
Kingdom Ministry May 1974 p.3 How Are You Using Your Life?[/b]Nice job !!
Manny
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Originally posted by galveston75The WT started this non-sense as early as 68-69 saying that 1975 would most certainly be the end of this wicked system!! So whether it be directly or indirectly it caused some to sell hoses and all so WHATEVER !! I care less if you guys say I'm devoid or a slander fine. What G-75 and RC can't escape is that The "awake" is a document of sorts and when falsehood was written in it then does not come to pass it just shows it to be what it is. Fodder at best good for lining a birdcage or kindling for fire!! There can't be slander against what your own works had written in them. Historical and can be researched. RC can't seem to make distinctions that not all Christians were complicit with these atrocities he mentions in other threads. I never seen such obtuseness in my life. It would be like showing somebody that 2+2=4 and they keep saying no it's 5.
Let me shed a little light on this issue. If you notice the Society said "they hear of reports" of ones selling their homes and getting out of debt. The Society never said themelves to do this to anyone either in private or publicly. My father was an elder at that time and no such letter or report or document or memo from the society was ever printed or g of ones looking for the truth and this was one example of ones that were not.
Manny
Originally posted by galveston75Dude really? You say this was like Mark 4? If they left your ranks it might be the best thing that happened and maybe they saw the W.T. for what it is a lie!!
Let me shed a little light on this issue. If you notice the Society said "they hear of reports" of ones selling their homes and getting out of debt. The Society never said themelves to do this to anyone either in private or publicly. My father was an elder at that time and no such letter or report or document or memo from the society was ever printed or ...[text shortened]... g of ones looking for the truth and this was one example of ones that were not.
Manny
Originally posted by menace71Geeeez you state this so called fact but you still don't show the proof the Society said to do this. It never did and until you prove it you should keep quite until you can. But then we'd never hear from you again as it doesn't exist.
The WT started this non-sense as early as 68-69 saying that 1975 would most certainly be the end of this wicked system!! So whether it be directly or indirectly it caused some to sell hoses and all so WHATEVER !! I care less if you guys say I'm devoid or a slander fine. What G-75 and RC can't escape is that The "awake" is a document of sorts and when falseh ...[text shortened]... It would be like showing somebody that 2+2=4 and they keep saying no it's 5.
Manny
I'm starting to doubt your ability to comprehend anything Manny.