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Originally posted by Dowardperhaps like the pontifex maximus your opinions are infallible, who can say? why dont we start a thread, the atrocities of the catholic church? how many pages do you think that would fill?
one might say the same of everything you post Robbie, yet most here at least try and respond with an intelligent offering. Although I should have expected such a response...especially when my opinion has the added weight of being correct, and negating your point.
Originally posted by robbie carrobiebe my guest, by all means start that thread. It still does not ameliorate the claims made against the Watchtower.
perhaps like the pontifex maximus your opinions are infallible, who can say? why dont we start a thread, the atrocities of the catholic church? how many pages do you think that would fill?
Yet more blustering and obfuscation in the face of genuine verifiable facts. I suppose I shouldn't have expected anything else.
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Originally posted by Dowardsee the other thread were just about to go to town on Catholicism, you know, how
be my guest, by all means start that thread. It still does not ameliorate the claims made against the Watchtower.
Yet more blustering and obfuscation in the face of genuine verifiable facts. I suppose I shouldn't have expected anything else.
many persons you have murdered and sexually abused. I dont think there shall be
any bluster and obfuscation, unless of course you are willing to contest the historical
facts. what excuses will you have then?
Originally posted by robbie carrobiepure hyperbole, i have not personally murdered anyone, nor am I catholic
see the other thread were just about to go to town on Catholicism, you know, how
many persons you have murdered and sexually abused. I dont think there shall be
any bluster and obfuscation, unless of course you are willing to contest the historical
facts. what excuses will you have then?
so...when is the watchtower going to issue another "prediction"?
Originally posted by DowardI have no idea why don't you write to them and ask. As for your denomination, one
pure hyperbole, i have not personally murdered anyone, nor am I catholic
so...when is the watchtower going to issue another "prediction"?
has to ask what is it, lets see if you are guiltless of atrocity or not, or perhaps you like
to hide behind the anonymity.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieno one is guiltless, hence the need for the atonement. No denomination is guiltless, but then again denominations aren't saved by grace, individuals are. There are plenty of people in my denomination who are not living under grace, as I am sure there are in the JW's.
I have no idea why don't you write to them and ask. As for your denomination, one
has to ask what is it, lets see if you are guiltless of atrocity or not, or perhaps you like
to hide behind the anonymity.
Originally posted by Dowardthen where are the instances where we have been involved in atrocity?
no one is guiltless, hence the need for the atonement. No denomination is guiltless, but then again denominations aren't saved by grace, individuals are. There are plenty of people in my denomination who are not living under grace, as I am sure there are in the JW's.
Originally posted by robbie carrobiehow about 1975 when the false prophets of your denomination encouraged people to not make house and credit card payments so the publishing could be increased? The result was a large number of people who lost homes, many went so far into debt they had to declare bankruptcy. Even worse there were people who lost their faith as a result. Who will acoount for those who now no longer believe? Spiritual death is far worse than physical death. No denomination is guiltless RC. The sooner you understand that the sooner you may understand the saving grace of Christ
then where are the instances where we have been involved in atrocity?
Originally posted by DowardCan you please quote where the Watchtower Society ever said that? Please show in writing where it was said?
how about 1975 when the false prophets of your denomination encouraged people to not make house and credit card payments so the publishing could be increased? The result was a large number of people who lost homes, many went so far into debt they had to declare bankruptcy. Even worse there were people who lost their faith as a result. Who will acoount for tho ...[text shortened]... less RC. The sooner you understand that the sooner you may understand the saving grace of Christ
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I can't find that but I can find where the "Awake" said 1975 would be the end of this system. The interesting thing is growth was at it's highest 74-75 then 2 negative growth years in a row. It is interesting and you have to think of real world consequences of this. I'm sure there were people that hung on the Watch Towers words then this big let down.
PS: Doward give us the site if you will
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/1975.php is all I have
Manny
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Originally posted by menace71so you cannot find it , because it doesn't exist, you slandering reprobates, you have
I can't find that but I can find where the "Awake" said 1975 would be the end of this system. The interesting thing is growth was at it's highest 74-75 then 2 negative growth years in a row. It is interesting and you have to think of real world consequences of this. I'm sure there were people that hung on the Watch Towers words then this big let down.
...[text shortened]... you will
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/1975.php is all I have
Manny
nothing, absolutely zero. When asked from you, what principles and guidance do we
have for our lives you are empty and deviod, all you can do is attack others and you
yourselves have nothing worthwhile to even consider, show us the alternative so that
we may consider its principles and precepts and look, what is there but an emptiness
deviod of reason and deviod of substance, you are like a distasteful joke. Christ aptly
stated, you are the slave that gets let off with a huge debt and then immediately goes
away to find someone who owes him a minuscule amount and beats him up to get it.