Originally posted by josephwExactly right.
They think just like the rest of us, but they have one thought though that keeps running through their minds that the rest of us don't.
There is no God, there is no God, there is no God, there is no God, there is no God.... 😉
The thought is there. The reasoning is a fortress erected around the thought.
The reasoning is to protect the thought.
Originally posted by josephwi think that many sincere persons have witnessed the hypocrisy of religion, cannot understand why god permits suffering or have succumbed to a materialistic point of view. There are many reasons why a person may be atheistic.
They think just like the rest of us, but they have one thought though that keeps running through their minds that the rest of us don't.
There is no God, there is no God, there is no God, there is no God, there is no God.... 😉
Originally posted by geariesIt is not a matter of ability to think or no ability to think.
You mean they have the ability to think?
It is a matter of every step along the way, the obsession that there is no God is there.
The thinking starts this way, proceeds this way, develops this way, and arrives at any conclusion only this way.
At no time in the thinking do they include the possibiity of the Person or power of God or any of the attributes of God.
The possibility of God is kept out of every stage of the thinking. Then they boast like you "Oh, we know how to think."
Originally posted by 667joePossibly. Possibly.
Everybody thinks. Atheists use critical thinking. Theists use wishful thinking.
Now the question is, Just Because One Wishes For What He Thinks About, Does That Make it Not Real ?
You see Joe?
I have a wishful thought that I would be able to breath regularly for the rest of the evening ?
Does that make air illusionary ?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo?
i think that many sincere persons have witnessed the hypocrisy of religion, cannot understand why god permits suffering or have succumbed to a materialistic point of view. There are many reasons why a person may be atheistic.
Does that make God a hypocrite?
Do you think there is any good reason to deny the existence of God? As a matter of fact, in my opinion, the hypocrisy of religion and those who practice it would compel me to seek after truth all the more. Which it does.
Originally posted by jaywillNot at all. It is, however, wishful thinking to think that you breath because of god. Anybody can think about real things and unreal things. Just because you think about god does not make god real.
Possibly. Possibly.
Now the question is, Just Because One Wishes For What He Thinks About, Does That Make it Not Real ?
You see Joe?
I have a wishful thought that I would be able to breath regularly for the rest of the evening ?
Does that make air illusionary ?
Originally posted by 667joe"Just because you think about god does not make god real."
Not at all. It is, however, wishful thinking to think that you breath because of god. Anybody can think about real things and unreal things. Just because you think about god does not make god real.
Of course not.
But thinking God doesn't exist doesn't make God non-existent either.
God exists, or not, independent of what we think. Which proves absolutes exist.
Originally posted by josephwIf christians used applied critical thinking they would cease to be christians.
They think just like the rest of us, but they have one thought though that keeps running through their minds that the rest of us don't.
There is no God, there is no God, there is no God, there is no God, there is no God.... 😉
I should say"they would cease to be members of any church or denomination."
Originally posted by karoly aczel"Applied critical thinking."
If christians used applied critical thinking they would cease to be christians.
I should say"they would cease to be members of any church or denomination."
Apply this then. It is irrelevant whether or not one is a member of a particular "church" or denomination.
What is critical is whether or not one is a member of the "body of Christ."