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Spirituality

  1. Standard member dj2becker
    Hoarse whisperer
    06 Dec '17 19:27
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Even if you believe in a Creator there is no reason to
    suppose its creation could not surpass its own knowledge.
    That when it’s creation thinks it can’t even be 100% sure about anything?
  2. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    06 Dec '17 22:18
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    That when it’s creation thinks it can’t even be 100% sure about anything?
    Amend your grammar and I will reply.
  3. Standard member dj2becker
    Hoarse whisperer
    09 Dec '17 08:43
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Amend your grammar and I will reply.
    I assume you must be proud of your knowledge, even if it is less than one millionth of everything there is to know?
  4. Subscriber Pianoman1
    Nil desperandum
    09 Dec '17 12:43
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    According to Ghost an innocent child dying of cancer is incompatible with the existence of a perfectly loving God, leading to the inescapable conclusion that such a deity does not exist.

    So my first question to Ghost is why is a child dying of cancer incompatible with the existence of a perfectly loving God? Because he says so?
    Only the boundless stupidity of a religiously imprinted mind could ask such an absurd question......
  5. Standard member dj2becker
    Hoarse whisperer
    09 Dec '17 17:29
    Originally posted by @pianoman1
    Only the boundless stupidity of a religiously imprinted mind could ask such an absurd question......
    Only the boundless stupidity of the humanist mind could think the creation is more knowledgeable than the creator.
  6. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    10 Dec '17 04:50
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    I assume you must be proud of your knowledge, even if it is less than one millionth of everything there is to know?
    Is that an assertion or a question?
  7. Standard member dj2becker
    Hoarse whisperer
    10 Dec '17 05:49
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Is that an assertion or a question?
    Rhetorical question.
  8. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    10 Dec '17 09:51
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Rhetorical question.
    Your assumption is wrong.
  9. Standard member dj2becker
    Hoarse whisperer
    11 Dec '17 16:26
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Your assumption is wrong.
    Feel free to demonstrate why it is wrong if you can.
  10. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    11 Dec '17 19:41
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Feel free to demonstrate why it is wrong if you can.
    dj2becker to wolfgang59 "I assume you must be proud of your knowledge"

    I am not proud of my knowledge.
    Seems a strange emotion to attach to knowledge.
    And I think I would know better than you.
    And any rational person would agree that I understand my emotions better than you.
    QED
  11. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    12 Dec '17 13:29 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    dj2becker to wolfgang59 "I assume you must be proud of your knowledge"

    I am not proud of my knowledge.
    Seems a strange emotion to attach to knowledge.
    And I think I would know better than you.
    And any rational person would agree that I understand my emotions better than you.
    QED
    Meanwhile, this alleged god, exsisting or not, is a non-interacting god at best. Clearly not interested in helping humans, animals, or the planet in general since we are actively destroying the planetary ecosystem supposedly given reign over all that, given by god to be the caretakers of the land and we can't even do THAT right. So a god would know that full well but in spite of the absolute fact we are actively screwing up the planet, no intervention.

    I assume religious folk just think Earth will be burned to a cinder and only humans live on, and of those, only the ones who sycophantly worship a supposedly all knowing infallible gracious, infinitely powerful god, who just happens to pathologically need humans to worship it and it alone otherwise there will be literal hell to pay.

    If that was the case, only humans and of that group only one in a thousand lives on in heaven and Earth burned to a cinder, what was the point of making Earth in the first place, creating a situation where billions of people, admittedly (by the religious) far below this god in morality, grace, power and such, all condemned to eternal pain, so explain why a god would WANT such a situation. Good luck apologizing out that one.

    Oh, I have no doubt you will come up with another couple of pages of ancient book verses which you THINK proves your point but really only proves your gullibility.
  12. Standard member dj2becker
    Hoarse whisperer
    13 Dec '17 08:04
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    dj2becker to wolfgang59 "I assume you must be proud of your knowledge"

    I am not proud of my knowledge.
    Seems a strange emotion to attach to knowledge.
    And I think I would know better than you.
    And any rational person would agree that I understand my emotions better than you.
    QED
    If you are not proud of your 'knowledge' how do you feel about it? Ashamed?
  13. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    13 Dec '17 18:40
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    If you are not proud of your 'knowledge' how do you feel about it? Ashamed?
    I don't associate any emotion to my knowledge, seems a weird notion to me.

    What emotion do you attach to your "knowledge".
  14. Standard member dj2becker
    Hoarse whisperer
    15 Dec '17 20:27
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    I don't associate any emotion to my knowledge, seems a weird notion to me.

    What emotion do you attach to your "knowledge".
    I am humbled by the fact that I don’t have all the answers but that there may be someone that does.
  15. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    15 Dec '17 21:34
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    I am humbled by the fact that I don’t have all the answers but that there may be someone that does.
    But how do you feel about your knowledge?