Originally posted by RJHindswrong. you have rejected most of the bible.
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
(2 Timothy 3:16-17 NKJV)
I have not rejected any of the Holy Bible, I even accept what Satan is reported to have said. What I reject is your spin on what you say it means. 😏
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!
Originally posted by RJHindsquit lying to yourself. you and i both know you have rejected most of biblegod's commandments.
The Hoy Bible is considered the Word of God regardless of the fact that it also contains the words of Satan, the words of Solomon, the words of David, the words of Moses, the words of the Pharisee or the words of Demons. [b]I have not rejected any of it. I am only distingushing between what you believe is commanded by God and the actual facts of the in ...[text shortened]... of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.[/b]
(2 Timothy 3:16-17 NKJV)[/b]
Freedom FROM religion is up to you.
If you feel content in "taking your ball and going home", then by all means do so.
What I want is Freedom from "Freedom FROM religion".
Please don't try to convince me that my Savior does not exist, that my salvation is a sick and twisted daydream, that my Creator is as real as Santa Claus. I have as much Free Will as you do. I can decide my fate just as you can. My choice is not a "fairy tale", it is as real as your choice. Furthermore, I am as convinced that I know the truth of my choice as you are. You aren't going to change my mind. As far as I am concerned, I cannot logically or rationally make any other choice. Convincing me otherwise "ain't gonna happen".
So stop trying to cram your non-belief down my throat by laughing at my choice. I don't particularly care that you find it funny. It is not a laughing matter to me. Unlike you, I fully expect to be put to death for my belief at a future time after Christianity becomes illegal. So until then, please stop trying to convert me to your non-belief. Frankly, it's insulting to me for you to assume I can just casually discard my faith.
Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion. Your choice is "none". I get that. You demand respect for your choice, please give me the same measure of respect for my choice. And, please, for the love of Bud Selig, Roger Goodell, Sepp Blatter, or whatever God of Recreation you choose to follow on Sunday, stop telling me that my choice is "dangerous" to other human beings on Planet Earth.
So you want "Freedom FROM religion"? Then please grant me Freedom from your "Freedom FROM religion".
Originally posted by RJHindsHe is not able to distinguish his own thoughts from the thoughts injected into his mind from the evil spirit. He does not have the experience to discern any difference.
I see you have been inspired by Satan the Devil again. 😏
As the Apostle JOhn wrote - "The whole world lies in the evil one" the rejector of Christ is like helpless patient on an operating table. His whole inner being is wide open to the Devil to do practically whatever he wants with his thoughts.
Lying there under the scapple of Satan, a lodging place for the Devil's hatred against God and Christ.
It is a sad thing to see. And God only has had mercy on any of us to be able to escape lying their under the Devil's munipulation.
Originally posted by jaywillHow can one determine this about oneself? Are you able to determine whether or not it has happened to you?
He is not able to distinguish his own thoughts from the thoughts injected into his mind from the evil spirit. He does not have the experience to discern any difference.
You talk of experience. What experience do you have that makes you think you can tell where others cannot?
Originally posted by jaywillif satan can deceive, the possibility remains that you also are deceived, the entire story of christ could be the invention of satan and you would not be able to distinguish the difference.
He is not able to distinguish his own thoughts from the thoughts injected into his mind from the evil spirit. He does not have the experience to discern any difference.
taking this a step further, a simple examination of the old testament proves the invalidity of the new testament and the conclusion that it is in fact you who are deceived is demonstrable.
Originally posted by Suziannenot always. this is only true of the most enlightened families or individuals who have had exposure to certain philosophies.
Freedom FROM religion is up to you.
the sad fact remains that more often than not, religion is not up to you, it is up to your parents, up to your culture or up to your government.
when people want freedom from religion, it is this that they want freedom from. they really do want to make it "up to you" for everyone.
"hatred of god and christ"
this is often brought up as a retort of last resort by the ignorant. it is somewhat misleading since these individuals wrongly believe that christ is god, to claim there is hatred of "god and christ" is ludicrous. further, these individuals are not worshipers of god, they are devotees of some creature described as a god in an ancient book of myths.
what they are really saying is "hatred of biblegod"
now, from the perspective of the enlightened, such a phrase is meaningless. to suggest that one hates the biblegod is the same as suggesting one hates the boogie-monster. both are fairy tales designed to scare little children into good behavior patterns. it's just that some little children grow up to adults who need constant threats to continue being good.
it's a sad thing to see grown adults spiral down to drooling sycophants unable to discern what is good on their own, such that they need to resort to material outdated by thousands of years. yet even then, they conveniently ignore the parts that don't agree with modern moral standards.
they are constantly trying to justify the evils of genocide, slavery, maltreatment of women, and so on; all commanded or endorsed by the insane creature that they worship, coming up with twisted explanations, trying more to convince themselves of the absurdities than anyone else.
it's painful to see what are probably good people suffer mental and spiritual trauma by the dictates of their abusive dogmas. and so those of us who are enlightened patiently chip away, hoping some reason will get through. sometimes it does, other times it is wasted.
que sera sera.
Originally posted by VoidSpiritSo what? Marriage used to be up to parents too and sometimes still is. It is still up to the children to believe or not to believe. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
not always. this is only true of the most enlightened families or individuals who have had exposure to certain philosophies.
the sad fact remains that more often than not, religion is not up to you, it is up to your parents, up to your culture or up to your government.
when people want freedom from religion, it is this that they want freedom from. they really do want to make it "up to you" for everyone.
Originally posted by VoidSpiritIt is Christ that is the true Light. Beware! Satan masquerades as an angel of light and deceives many into thinking they have been "enlightened". 😏
"hatred of god and christ"
this is often brought up as a retort of last resort by the ignorant. it is somewhat misleading since these individuals wrongly believe that christ is god, to claim there is hatred of "god and christ" is ludicrous. further, these individuals are not worshipers of god, they are devotees of some creature described as a god in ...[text shortened]... ason will get through. sometimes it does, other times it is wasted.
que sera sera.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!