Originally posted by RJHindsas sonhouse pointed out, i'm glad you've finally come to the realization that the bible is not the word of your god, but the word of ancient governments attempting to control their subjects.
These rules are man's attempt at government as Jesus pointed out on the divorce issue. These people and all people since then have refused to obey the ten commandments of God. Other laws were needed to deal with this refusal. Although the situations may not be to your liking, since we lack all the detail to judge fairly; but it is what it is and that is n ...[text shortened]... bear the burden of blame for all the wrongs mankind has committed throughout our history. 😏
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Originally posted by SwissGambitTruth - FAIL.
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In God's Israel Marriage was not Sex Slavery.
Sex Slavery is a license to RAPE against the will of the woman.
Or it could be viewed as free or forceful seduction of a woman not properly belonging to the man in marriage.
Exodus 22:16 - " And if a man seduces a virgin who is not engaged and lies with her, he shall surely pay a dowry for her to become his wife."
Originally posted by VoidSpiritThat is not what I said. There are things in the Holy Bible that are the ideas in words of a natural wise man, like ecclesiates, and foolish evil men, and the words of angels and Satan. But we call all the Holy Bible the Word of God because even those words not considered direct words of God are words written by holy men inspired by the Spirit of God. But anyone who has common sense and carefully reads the Holy Bible should be able to determine that God does not approve of every idea written there. God is good and His word is true.
as sonhouse pointed out, i'm glad you've finally come to the realization that the bible is not the word of your god, but the word of ancient governments attempting to control their subjects.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!
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Originally posted by RJHindsRight of course. There is a difference in what the Bible teaches and what the Bible records as having been said or having happened.
That is not what I said. There are things in the Holy Bible that are the ideas in words of a natural wise man, like ecclesiates, and foolish evil men, and the words of angels and Satan. But we call all the Holy Bible the Word of God because even those words not considered direct words of God are words written by holy men inspired by the Spirit of God. But ...[text shortened]... of every idea written there. God is good and His word is true.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!
I am exploring the charge of God ordained Sex Slavery very carefully. I am objective and fair about it.
We do have instances of concubines belonging to Israelite kings and partriarchs. The point though is not what occured but what was instructed by the law of Moses.
Not what occured. Not what happened. But what did the Law of Moses instruct to be done. That is the point, I think, to the Sex Slave charge.
Originally posted by jaywillSo that is the basis for your being able to cherry pick what biblical verses you want to believe and those you claim no longer part of christian dogma.
Right of course. There is a difference in what the Bible [b]teaches and what the Bible records as having been said or having happened.
I am exploring the charge of God ordained Sex Slavery very carefully. I am objective and fair about it.
We do have instances of concubines belonging to Israelite kings and partriarc ...[text shortened]... t did the Law of Moses instruct to be done. That is the point, I think, to the Sex Slave charge.[/b]
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Originally posted by sonhouseWhen you select your rationals to trash the Bible it is just "Aha! The Bible said this!" When I study the matter carefully it is "cherry picking".
So that is the basis for your being able to cherry pick what biblical verses you want to believe and those you claim no longer part of christian dogma.
I don't think anymore about the possibility of you studying soberly about issues concerning Christian belief.
I don't even think anymore about sonhouse being able to think clearly on this subject. Believe what you want.
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Originally posted by sonhouse
So that is the basis for your being able to cherry pick what biblical verses you want to believe and those you claim no longer part of christian dogma.
So that is the basis for your being able to cherry pick what biblical verses you want to believe and those you claim no longer part of christian dogma.
If you come to the Old Testament Law of Moses, it has to be studied carefully what God instructed to be done about dept servitude.
When you come to the New Testament, it is really easier to know that such a practice is out of the question to the disciples of Jesus Christ.
No need to "cherry pick". You run hard right smack into the whole cherry tree.
With the Old Testament some careful analysis has to be done. That is for me anyway. Probably the Orthodox Jew would know immediately that Sex Slavery was totally out of the question in the Levitical Laws.
I am not an Orthodox Jew.
Originally posted by jaywillBut it still means you make a decision as to whether a verse in the bible, OT or NT, is coming from your god and therefore subject to change.So that is the basis for your being able to cherry pick what biblical verses you want to believe and those you claim no longer part of christian dogma.
If you come to the Old Testament Law of Moses, it has to be studied carefully what God instructed to be done about dept servitude.
When you come to the New Testament, it is really ea ...[text shortened]... x Slavery was totally out of the question in the Levitical Laws.
I am not an Orthodox Jew.
Originally posted by RJHindsall irrelevant of course because you have rejected what is considered the word of god from the old testament, not something attributed as words of satan.
That is not what I said. There are things in the Holy Bible that are the ideas in words of a natural wise man, like ecclesiates, and foolish evil men, and the words of angels and Satan. But we call all the Holy Bible the Word of God because even those words not considered direct words of God are words written by holy men inspired by the Spirit of God. But ...[text shortened]... of every idea written there. God is good and His word is true.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!
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Originally posted by VoidSpiritThe Hoy Bible is considered the Word of God regardless of the fact that it also contains the words of Satan, the words of Solomon, the words of David, the words of Moses, the words of the Pharisee or the words of Demons. I have not rejected any of it. I am only distingushing between what you believe is commanded by God and the actual facts of the intentions of the Word of God, which was written down by holy men inspired of God for our instuction in righteousness.
all irrelevant of course because you have rejected what is considered the word of god from the old testament, not something attributed as words of satan.
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
(2 Timothy 3:16-17 NKJV)
Originally posted by VoidSpiritAll Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
all irrelevant of course because you have rejected what is considered the word of god from the old testament, not something attributed as words of satan.
(2 Timothy 3:16-17 NKJV)
I have not rejected any of the Holy Bible, I even accept what Satan is reported to have said. What I reject is your spin on what you say it means. 😏
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!
Originally posted by jaywillIt is not just that. It is the buying of another human being as property for sexual purposes.
Sex Slavery is a license to RAPE against the will of the woman.
But a rapist certainly could buy victims and get away with raping them under the banner of marriage according to the law given in Ex 21. He can even sell her off again if she doesn't satisfy him(!)
Originally posted by RJHindsTell me, has any other book since the bible been written with the inspiration of god?
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
(2 Timothy 3:16-17 NKJV)
I have not rejected any of the Holy Bible, I even accept what Satan is reported to have said. What I reject is your spin on what you say it means. 😏
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!