Spirituality
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@fmf saidNo, that is all you can do is speculate about God because you are not walking with
We can but speculate about such things as "God".
If it gives rise to relatively lengthy slabs of generic assertions about your religious dogma [like the one above], it is still you being entirely subjective.
Furthermore, any claims you make about whatever grotesque violence you happen to believe will "rightfully" be applied to me are entirely personal.
Him, He comes into His own; you have never experienced that it was always
something between your ears, in His name, just not in Him.
John 8:18-20
English Standard Version
I am the one who bears witness about myself, and the Father who sent me bears witness about me.” They said to him therefore, “Where is your Father?” Jesus answered, “You know neither me nor my Father. If you knew me, you would know my Father also.” These words he spoke in the treasury, as he taught in the temple; but no one arrested him, because his hour had not yet come.
20 May 22
@kellyjay saidI used to have the faith that you have. I used to believe the same things about myself that you believe about yourself now. There is nothing objective about what you are claiming, at all. It's just stuff between your ears, KellyKay. Just personal opinions. You think you are "walking with God" and that's why you think you are immortal.
No, that is all you can do is speculate about God because you are not walking with
Him, He comes into His own; you have never experienced that it was always
something between your ears, in His name, just not in Him.
20 May 22
@fmf saidYou may have had similar doctrine but did not have a personal relationship with Him being inside of you. If you deny Him being real now, the only thing you can say being consistent with your current beliefs is you thought so, meaning what you had could be denied because it was never real only imaginary.
I used to have the faith that you have. I used to believe the same things about myself that you believe about yourself now. There is nothing objective about what you are claiming, at all. It's just stuff between your ears, KellyKay. Just personal opinions. You think you are "walking with God" and that's why you think you are immortal.
20 May 22
@kellyjay saidI am fully aware of what you perceive about yourself and about your God figure as a result of your religious dogma and your faith. I used to believe the kind of stuff as you believe.
You may have had similar doctrine but did not have a personal relationship with Him being inside of you.
20 May 22
@kellyjay saidWell, KellyJay, I am an agnostic atheist now, if that's what you're getting at. Back then, as it does for you now, it felt real and not only imaginary. I have experiential knowledge of having the faith you have: I understand and empathize with what your beliefs are about God and Jesus and all of it.
If you deny Him being real now, the only thing you can say being consistent with your current beliefs is you thought so, meaning what you had could be denied because it was never real only imaginary.
20 May 22
@fmf saidIf you acknowledge all that you had were feelings that were not real then that is all you had, I don’t dispute that. I agree with you that all you ever had was a feeling that you could dismiss as not being real. I am taking you at your word!
Well, KellyJay, I am an agnostic atheist now, if that's what you're getting at. Back then, as it does for you now, it felt real and not only imaginary. I have experiential knowledge of having the faith you have: I understand and empathize with what your beliefs are about God and Jesus and all of it.
20 May 22
@divegeester saidYou have 100% certainty well if your wrong you will have no excuse!
So it is YOU warning me about something I have 100% certainty doesn’t exit?
Are you surprised when you get a bit of blowback?