Originally posted by @js357 Wait a minute if OSAS isn't directly stated in the Bible, where does it tell people they can authoritatively judge for themselves if they are part of the elect?
Knowing you are saved does not seem to be an essential part of OSAS.It would be hubris.
Sounds like setting up a straw man, to me.
If the opponent of a doctrine gets to define its tenets, you can be pretty sure it will be fatally flawed.
Nobody can authoritatively judge if they are part of the elect of God, except in rare circumstances. The closest to achieving such a status is to start by preaching the commandments of Christ and following of these commandments. This is how one can become a sheep of Christ. It is not achieved by talking but by doing.
Originally posted by @rajk999 Not interested.. thanks.
Just pointing out how the church as you use it is only a narrow grouping of churches while other churches hold beliefs similar to you on the topics you complain about.
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Fifteen to twenty years could pass and certain posters could never go beyond the matter of debating about the assurance of salvation.
To some here there simply exists nothing else to talk about related to Spirituality.
Originally posted by @sonship Fifteen to twenty years could pass and certain posters could never go beyond the matter of debating about the assurance of salvation.
To some here there simply exists nothing else to talk about related to [b]Spirituality.[/b]
Who can credibly argue that salvation is not the central issue of Christianity, and that Christianity is not the central issue of this forum?
The trinity is not called about speficially in the bible so based on the OPs rational. That can’t be true either...?
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Originally posted by @divegeester Dodged it twice, lol.
Stepping out of the way of one with apparent need for serious professional psychological help with his / her personality?
Well, okay.
Count it as dodging.
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Originally posted by @js357 Who can credibly argue that salvation is not the central issue of Christianity, and that Christianity is not the central issue of this forum?
The assurance of salvation.
What Hebrews calls the foundation, from which believers should go on, not laying again and again the foundation.
Some here will never graduate from arguing about this foundation.
I mean after 40 years you are still arguing about whether you were born? That's sad.
Originally posted by @rajk999 Nobody can authoritatively judge if they are part of the elect of God, except in rare circumstances. The closest to achieving such a status is to start by preaching the commandments of Christ and following of these commandments. This is how one can become a sheep of Christ. It is not achieved by talking but by doing.
It is not in the Bible so no one can give a verse supporting it.
Originally posted by @js357 Who can credibly argue that salvation is not the central issue of Christianity, and that Christianity is not the central issue of this forum?
Salvation is not the central issue. Knowing God is the central issue.