01 Feb 07
Originally posted by aardvarkhomeI humbly conceed. But perhaps you underestimate me as well. I get a little frustrated too! And a little confused at times trying to keep track of the thead. I'm a newcomer here and trying to get up to speed.
You know very little about me or my world view.
When you suggest I need to learn more to get a broader perspective you are insulting my intelligence and now you have the gall to complain about some name calling.
Ignoring other opinions is what you people do best, stick with what you're good at
One thing that throws me off is the absents of a face to face confrontation. I can't see you, can't read body language. can't hear the tone of voice, or the look in your eye.
I'm not offended when someone calls me names, though it makes me feel disrespected.
One other thing, we are obviously on oppisite sides of the God issue. I think. How do we dicuss this topic without fighting? If you're interested that is.
01 Feb 07
Originally posted by Hand of HecateI realize that now. Frame the debate and let's see what we can do.
He's only resorting to 'name calling' out of frustration. Very often the stubborn dogma we are confronted with by literal Christians makes any constructive debate impossible.
For example Ass...er, Acemasters assertion that Hell is literally and physically at the center of the Earth is undebatable. Not because he's right, but, because he won't bud ...[text shortened]... nd you will left apart from God for eternity.
Anything wrong with what I've said?
Let me explain why we christains won't budge: It's because we recogize and affirm that God is the final authority and that his word (the Bible) is his instruction manual for life. I realize how this position can be frustating to the non believer because of the glaring hypocrasy evident in the so called church of God. Someone once said to me that satan does his best work from the pulpit.
I, for one, would be delighted to have a constructive debate. That is what I want to do here.
Yes, I do see your point. But, as to knowing the will of God, I will simply have to quote a certain verse that comes to mind, and then I'll leave it there for you to respond to.
Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect, will of God.
01 Feb 07
Originally posted by josephwGod is dead.
I realize that now. Frame the debate and let's see what we can do.
Let me explain why we christains won't budge: It's because we recogize and affirm that God is the final authority and that his word (the Bible) is his instruction manual for life. I realize how this position can be frustating to the non believer because of the glaring hypocrasy evident in ...[text shortened]... g of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect, will of God.
01 Feb 07
Originally posted by AcemasterSo, when a woman goes through menopause or has a historectomy
Right. Personally, I believe in having sex for only the purpose of having a baby. I don't believe the Bible says anything about that, but I see it as right.
because of uterine cancer, it would be a sin for her and her husband
to have sex?
Nemesio
02 Feb 07
Originally posted by josephwI don't think making the assumption that I'm not a Christian is appropriate. Regardless, I have a different view of what it means to be a Christian or, possibly, even a good person.
I realize that now. Frame the debate and let's see what we can do.
Let me explain why we christains won't budge: It's because we recogize and affirm that God is the final authority and that his word (the Bible) is his instruction manual for life. I realize how this position can be frustating to the non believer because of the glaring hypocrasy evident in ...[text shortened]... g of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect, will of God.
02 Feb 07
Originally posted by Hand of HecateI acually did think, to be honest, that you were not a christian. But I based that on what I read in your posts. Truthfully, I don't know wether you are a christian or not, unless you tell me.
I don't think making the assumption that I'm not a Christian is appropriate. Regardless, I have a different view of what it means to be a Christian or, possibly, even a good person.
What is your view of what it means to be a christian, and or, a good person, and how do you arive at your conclusion.
02 Feb 07
Originally posted by scottishinnzTo believe in God means that you have to have faith that there is a God. I also believe that God does things that are not meant to be understood.
I don't think anyone would disagree that God exists as a concept. You are going to be very hard pressed to provide empirical evidence for that one though.
I used to be a non-believer, but I have been a witness to miraculous things that cannot be explained, therefore I have come to the conclusion that God allows us to understand things when we are ready to understand.
Why is it we can understand and explain complex phenomena in our physical world and yet we can't really explain how the brain functions or even the true concept of consciousness? Because He is not ready for us to know yet.