Is religious indoctrination child abuse?

Originally posted by FMF
What does a non-"secular university" indoctrinate a trainee teacher to do?

To do about what? Give me a scenario.

Originally posted by dj2becker
To do about what? Give me a scenario.

It's a question about a claim you made. You claimed "secular universities" indoctrinate teachers about what to teach. What happens in non-"secular universities" then?

Originally posted by FMF
It's a question about a claim you made. You claimed "secular universities" indoctrinate teachers about what to teach. What happens in non-"secular universities" then?

Did I say 'about what to teach' or are you twisting my words again?

Originally posted by dj2becker
Did I say 'about what to teach' or are you twisting my words again?

Verbatim: "So a secular university indoctrinates you on what the right thing is to teach kids and you in turn indoctrinate the kids." So, my question to you is: What happens in non-"secular universities" then?

Originally posted by FMF
Verbatim: "So a secular university indoctrinates you on what the right thing is to teach kids and you in turn indoctrinate the kids." So, my question to you is: What happens in non-"secular universities" then?

The same.

Originally posted by dj2becker
A B.Ed honors degree on its own does not allow you to teach but a B.Ed on its own does. If you do a B.Ed honors without having done a B.Ed you are not a qualified teacher.

How can a B.Ed (Hons) be less of a qualification than a B.Ed?

What kind of crazy system is that?

Originally posted by Eladar
I asked about humanism as well. I also brought up naturalism.

Do you believe naturalism is a religion? How about humanism? Or better yet, do you believe they can be a person's religion?

I don't know anything about humanism or naturalism.
Try Google.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
How can a B.Ed (Hons) be less of a qualification than a B.Ed?

What kind of crazy system is that?

It's South Africa.. everything is the opposite South of the equator

Originally posted by wolfgang59
I don't know anything about humanism or naturalism.
Try Google.

I asked you if you believe they can be a person's religious belief. You know, a belief rooted in assumption that one believes is correct but can't prove nor disprove it.

Originally posted by Eladar
I asked you if you believe they can be a person's religious belief. You know, a belief rooted in assumption that one believes is correct but can't prove nor disprove it.

Yo don't need any further proof that thinking and acting humanely and in turn realizing that we are all part of an ecosystem is inherently a good thing.
I don't follow any doctrine when it comes to this.
Are you saying that people are indoctrinated by "humanism" ?

Originally posted by Eladar
I asked you if you believe they can be a person's religious belief. You know, a belief rooted in assumption that one believes is correct but can't prove nor disprove it.

But I have never mentioned humanism or naturalism on this
thread or any other so why are you quizzing me on it?

Secular education was being discussed and I answered your question on secularism.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
How can a B.Ed (Hons) be less of a qualification than a B.Ed?

What kind of crazy system is that?

B.Ed requires 4 years of study, Honors is one additional year. Can't teach with a one year qualification unless it's a PGCE, and done as an add on to another bachelors.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Yo don't need any further proof that thinking and acting humanely and in turn realizing that we are all part of an ecosystem is inherently a good thing.
I don't follow any doctrine when it comes to this.
Are you saying that people are indoctrinated by "humanism" ?

I think you are more rooted in naturalism.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
But I have never mentioned humanism or naturalism on this
thread or any other so why are you quizzing me on it?

Secular education was being discussed and I answered your question on secularism.

I am trying to discuss indoctrination of religious beliefs.

Originally posted by Eladar
I think you are more rooted in naturalism.

What is that?

Are you saying "naturalism" is some kind of doctrine I follow?