16 Sep 17
Originally posted by @kellyjay1 Corinthians 5
Yes
I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[c] but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
16 Sep 17
Originally posted by @eladarOkay, where does that say don't love them?
1 Corinthians 5
I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[ ...[text shortened]... l or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
16 Sep 17
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Originally posted by @eladarYou think that cutting someone out of fellowship is not loving them? Those are people within our local bodies, the point being driven home is what can happen with God if they continue in sin. This isn't much different than correcting children at a young age, better mom and dad correct than they grow up and society do it in very harsh ways. The hope is restoration not their losing out on God being overcome by sin.
Here it is in case you forgot.
Show show me where we are not supposed to love our neighbors! I want to see that verse.
16 Sep 17
Originally posted by @kellyjayI didn't say it was unloving. I was just pointing out the topic of contention. You asked about treatment. I answered you about how the Bible says to treat people differently based on what they say they believe.
You think that cutting someone out of fellowship is not loving them? Those are people within our local bodies, the point being driven home is what can happen with God if they continue in sin. This isn't much different than correcting children at a young age, better mom and dad correct than they grow up and society do it in very harsh ways. The hope is rest ...[text shortened]... sin.
Show show me where we are not supposed to love our neighbors! I want to see that verse.
You like to change the topic. I am just trying to stay on topic.
I agree that expelling the immoral brother is loving.
16 Sep 17
Originally posted by @eladarOkay I missed the change you made, my bad.
I didn't say it was unloving. I was just pointing out the topic of contention. You asked about treatment. I answered you about how the Bible says to treat people differently based on what they say they believe.
You like to change the topic. I am just trying to stay on topic.
I agree that expelling the immoral brother is loving.
16 Sep 17
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Originally posted by @kellyjayAlls good.
Okay I missed the change you made, my bad.
Active sex life homosexuals are neighbors not brothers.
We are not to associate with people with active homosexual sex lives who claim to be Christians.
Of course other sinful lifestyle equally apply, this one was the specific to the discussion.
Do you agree?
16 Sep 17
Originally posted by @eladarI have told you over and over it is Christ in someone not a claim that matters. You can claim to be a Christian and be a child raping devil worshiper, you can be an outstanding church goer without Jesus and both of them are on their way to Hell.
Alls good.
Active sex life homosexuals are neighbors not brothers.
We are not to associate with people with active homosexual sex lives who claim to be Christians.
Of course other sinful lifesryles equally apply, this one was the specific to the discussion.
Do you agree?
If you are asking me if you should invite someone like that over to your home for dinner, I will say, no don't do it. If they end up right with God that will not be up to me, but how they end up with the LORD.
16 Sep 17
Originally posted by @kellyjayPaul wrote to have nothing to do with them.
I have told you over and over it is Christ in someone not a claim that matters. You can claim to be a Christian and be a child raping devil worshiper, you can be an outstanding church goer without Jesus and both of them are on their way to Hell.
If you are asking me if you should invite someone like that over to your home for dinner, I will say, no don' ...[text shortened]... it. If they end up right with God that will not be up to me, but how they end up with the LORD.
As for my earlier question, a simple yes or no would do.
16 Sep 17
Originally posted by @eladarYou should obey the scripture, if your concern is a lifestyle you know is taking place, than do what you believe you should do according to scripture.
Paul wrote to have nothing to do with them.
As for my earlier question, a simple yes or no would do.
16 Sep 17
Originally posted by @kellyjayFunny how you can say you agree with scripture, but when put into application, you can't.
You should obey the scripture, if your concern is a lifestyle you know is taking place, than do what you believe you should do according to scripture.
Very interesting.
16 Sep 17
Originally posted by @eladarI have never said go against scripture neither do I promote that. You tend to take things out of context to put words in other people's mouths. On several occasions I have called you on that.
Funny how you can say you agree with scripture, but when put into application, you can't.
Very interesting.