Jesus Identifies Himself As God

Originally posted by @philokalia
It might teach you to watch your tongue a bit and try to contribute to the conversation -- and everyone knows that that is where the real fun happens.

Thank you for your suggestions.

Originally posted by @philokalia
You literally troll everyone in the Spirituality forum.

I believe you do not post in the Debates forum because there is a greater diversity of posters and no one is willing to take you remotely seriously, thus driving you away from there.

But you should come by.

It might teach you to watch your tongue a bit and try to contribute to the conversation -- and everyone knows that that is where the real fun happens.

Forum comedy gold.

“And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.”

(John 17:5)

Jesus clearly identifying Himself as God become a man.

"Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!

How often I desired to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not!" (Matt. 23:37)

In the Old Testament it was always God Himself who cared for Jerusalem and the Jews as a bird flutters over her young such as in Isaiah 31:5 and Deuteronomy 32:11-12.

When Jesus said that HE desired to "gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her brood under her wings," He was indicating that He was God Himself.

Originally posted by @romans1009
Here’s one from the Gospel of Matthew:

“When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?

And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.

He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

And Simon Pete ...[text shortened]... d blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.”

(Matthew 16:13-17)

Really? This is where Jesus says he is God who happens to be his Father? Where exactly does he say this here?

Do you really not see the word "son" used here? Where in any society does the word son mean Father as in they are the same being?

Example: "I say I'm my fathers son".
" Jesus says he is his fathers son".
But yet somehow, someway the trinity says they are the same?

Every time I see some one post a scripture that actually disproves the trinity but yet they say it does, it's mind boggling.

Originally posted by @divegeester
Forum comedy gold.

Dead on friend!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by @romans1009
And one from the Gospel of John:

“Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, an ...[text shortened]... is why the Jews in this passage took up stones to throw at Jesus - they knew what He was saying.

Of course he existed before any human. Jesus was created long before the earth was even here. But he is not his Father Jehovah who created Jesus, his firstborn. That's why the scripture at Col 1:15 says Jesus was the "firstborn of all creation".

Originally posted by @romans1009
Calling Biblical passages “spam?”

Why do they upset you so much?

Regarding the verses you identified, do you realize when Jesus took on flesh, He was fully God and fully man and was consequently “a little lower than the angels?”

Obviously, the status of being “a little lower than the angels” is not the same status as God the Father, nor the same ...[text shortened]... lory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.”

(Hebrews 2:9)

Exodus 33:20
20 But he added: “You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.”

So did they really see God? No.......

Originally posted by @galveston75
Exodus 33:20
20 But he added: “You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.”

So did they really see God? No.......

Jesus was fully God and fully man. As the Hebrews states, He was made a little lower than the angels. He existed as God before He took on flesh.

Originally posted by @romans1009
Jesus was fully God and fully man. As the Hebrews states, He was made a little lower than the angels. He existed as God before He took on flesh.

Fully God and fully man.
Thats church doctrine, not the Bible
You are a follower of the church
Not a follower of Christ

Originally posted by @rajk999
Fully God and fully man.
Thats church doctrine, not the Bible
You are a follower of the church
Not a follower of Christ

It’s fact. Read the Gospel of John, chapter 1. Jesus existed as God prior to His taking on flesh. Read the Old Testament prophecies that said God would dwell among men. Read the Gospels in which Jesus says and is described as having flesh and where He identifies as the Son of man.

Originally posted by @romans1009
It’s fact. Read the Gospel of John, chapter 1. Jesus existed as God prior to His taking on flesh. Read the Old Testament prophecies that said God would dwell among men. Read the Gospels in which Jesus says and is described as having flesh and where He identifies as the Son of man.

I read it.
Nothing about fully God and fully man

Originally posted by @rajk999
I read it.
Nothing about fully God and fully man

Does the Gospel of John chapter 1 say Jesus existed as God before He became flesh and dwelt among man?

Originally posted by @romans1009
Does the Gospel of John chapter 1 say Jesus existed as God before He became flesh and dwelt among man?

Nope .. he was the Word of God, and was with God.

Originally posted by @rajk999
Nope .. he was the Word of God, and was with God.

...and the Word *was* God.

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The same was in the beginning with God.

All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.”

(John 1:1-3)