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    28 Jul '18 03:16
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    I gave you the precise meanings, (way and comes to) are our path to God.
    If we are not limiting our approach to God through Jesus we will not come to God.
    Jesus didn't say He was telling us about a way to God, He made it personal, He is the Way.
    Just using the words is not defining them.
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    28 Jul '18 03:17
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Just using the words is not defining them.
    Get a dictionary!
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    28 Jul '18 03:17
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    I guess we don't see eye to eye, and I'll let you alone and maybe someone else can
    answer these questions since you don't know what they mean I guess.
    There's no need to stonewall. The thread is about precise definitions not just repeating the words over and over again.
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    28 Jul '18 03:18
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    Get a dictionary!
    This is a dodge. How do YOU define those words in order that they justify your belief in what the verse says?
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    28 Jul '18 03:18
    Originally posted by @fmf
    There's no need to stonewall. The thread is about precise definitions not just repeating the words over and over again.
    I'm done playing that game, stonewall no. Done, yes.
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    28 Jul '18 03:21
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    I'm done playing that game, stonewall no. Done, yes.
    Don't run away from the conversation. You have posted several times so John 14:6 is clearly of some interest to you. And yet you've limited your contribution to a kind of statement-of-faith dodge. The OP asks for something very specific.

    Could "comes to the Father" mean 'get' everlasting life?

    Could "through Me" ["Me" being Jesus] mean doing the things (works, behaviour, morals, love of neighbour and enemies, etc.) that Jesus commanded"?

    So, by way of obeying those commandments and being the kind of person Jesus wanted one to be ~ through THAT ~ one can 'get' eternal life [i.e. be with or come to "the Father"].

    Is that how you understand it?

    If not, how do you define "comes to" God? What does "way" mean exactly? And what is the definition of "through" in this context?
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    28 Jul '18 04:031 edit
    Originally posted by @fmf
    What exactly does "way" or "the way" mean?
    What do you mean by "exactly and "mean""?
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    28 Jul '18 04:38
    Another waste of a thread lol.

    Pathetic and funny at the same time.
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    28 Jul '18 04:421 edit
    Originally posted by @whodey
    What do you mean by "exactly and "mean""?
    To a degree, Christian faith hinges on the precise definition of the words the OP talks about. Your stock-in-trade facetious response suggests that you are not up to the challenge.
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    28 Jul '18 04:432 edits
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Another waste of a thread lol.

    Pathetic and funny at the same time.
    Yet another RHP Christian clearly not up to the challenge.
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    28 Jul '18 04:56
    Originally posted by @fmf
    John 14:6: “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me."

    What precise meanings or definitions do you attach to the words "way" and "comes to" and "through" in this verse?
    The way is the way to eternal life.
    To come through Christ means to follow his commandments.
    Through Christ means through his teachings
    Therefore if you want eternal life then follow the commandments

    Its a sentiment which Jesus expressed many many times.

    Eternal life comes by following the commandments of Christ.
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    28 Jul '18 04:58
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Yet another RHP Christian clearly not up to the challenge.
    Lol you are such a pathetic blow hard.
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    28 Jul '18 05:10
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Lol you are such a pathetic blow hard.
    Three times you've posted on this thread. Three times you've had nothing to contribute.
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    28 Jul '18 05:491 edit
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    The way is the way to eternal life.
    To come through Christ means to follow his commandments.
    Through Christ means through his teachings
    Therefore if you want eternal life then follow the commandments

    Its a sentiment which Jesus expressed many many times.

    Eternal life comes by following the commandments of Christ.
    It seems that many Christians believe that the "way" to eternal life is by simply believing that they have been forgiven for all their "sins" by Jesus. It surely makes more sense that a "way" to achieve something is through action [i.e. doing things] and not just thinking things.
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    28 Jul '18 07:21
    Originally posted by @fmf
    It seems that many Christians believe that the "way" to eternal life is by simply believing that they have been forgiven for all their "sins" by Jesus. It surely makes more sense that a "way" to achieve something is through action [i.e. doing things] and not just thinking things.
    God made it clear what the "way" to "life" entails in the following :
    Ezekiel 33
    17“Yet your people say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ But it is their way that is not just. 18 If a righteous person turns from their righteousness and does evil, they will die for it. 19 And if a wicked person turns away from their wickedness and does what is just and right, they will live by doing so. 20 Yet you Israelites say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ But I will judge each of you according to your own ways.”

    Jesus echoed the above in the following:
    Matthew 16
    27“For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.

    John 5
    28“Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, 29and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.
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