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  1. Subscriber FMF
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    28 Jul '18 02:10
    John 14:6: “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me."

    What precise meanings or definitions do you attach to the words "way" and "comes to" and "through" in this verse?
  2. 28 Jul '18 02:34
    Lol
  3. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    28 Jul '18 02:41
    Christian KellyJay wouldn't do it on Thread 177715

    And now Christian Eladar seemingly can't do it on this thread.

    How many more Christians will there be who are not willing to pin down their precise beliefs pertaining to John 14:6 by defining the actual and explicit meaning of these words?
  4. Standard member KellyJay
    Walk your Faith
    28 Jul '18 02:56
    Originally posted by @fmf
    John 14:6: “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me."

    What precise meanings or definitions do you attach to the words "way" and "comes to" and "through" in this verse?
    Jesus said He was the way.
    Jesus declared no one comes to the Father but through Him.
    Jesus also said that He was the life.

    This verse centers on Jesus being the one we need to come to the Father and He draws
    a line saying no one comes to God except through Him.

    Without Jesus therefore no one comes to the Father, though they may try.
  5. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    28 Jul '18 03:00
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    Jesus said He was the way.
    Jesus declared no one comes to the Father but through Him.
    Jesus also said that He was the life.

    This verse centers on Jesus being the one we need to come to the Father and He draws
    a line saying no one comes to God except through Him.

    Without Jesus therefore no one comes to the Father, though they may try.
    What about the actual OP question?
  6. Standard member KellyJay
    Walk your Faith
    28 Jul '18 03:00
    Originally posted by @fmf
    What about the actual OP question?
    What wasn't addressed in your OP question?
  7. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    28 Jul '18 03:03
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    What wasn't addressed in your OP question?
    Your answer was merely a restating of your belief without addressing the specific request of the OP which is:

    What precise meanings or definitions do you attach to the words "way" and "comes to [The Father]" and "through [Me]" in this verse?
  8. Standard member karoly aczel
    the Devil himself
    28 Jul '18 03:08
    Originally posted by @fmf
    John 14:6: “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me."

    What precise meanings or definitions do you attach to the words "way" and "comes to" and "through" in this verse?
    Follow the example Jesus has provided for us.

    The core principles of Christianity resonate evreywhere.

    It is a shame that JC's name has been hijacked by the ignorant
  9. Standard member KellyJay
    Walk your Faith
    28 Jul '18 03:08
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Your answer was merely a restating of your belief without addressing the specific request of the OP which is:

    What precise meanings or definitions do you attach to the words "way" and "comes to [The Father]" and "through [Me]" in this verse?
    I gave you the precise meanings, (way and comes to) are our path to God.
    If we are not limiting our approach to God through Jesus we will not come to God.
    Jesus didn't say He was telling us about a way to God, He made it personal, He is the Way.
  10. Standard member KellyJay
    Walk your Faith
    28 Jul '18 03:09
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    Follow the example Jesus has provided for us.

    The core principles of Christianity resonate evreywhere.

    It is a shame that JC's name has been hijacked by the ignorant
    Do you see the words core principles in that statement? Do you see Jesus telling us this
    is how you do it? No, He limited the Way by claiming He was it, only through Him can
    anyone reach the Father.
  11. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    28 Jul '18 03:13
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    I gave you the precise meanings, (way and comes to) are our path to God.
    If we are not limiting our approach to God through Jesus we will not come to God.
    Jesus didn't say He was telling us about a way to God, He made it personal, He is the Way.
    You should perhaps offer precise definitions of the words in question, otherwise you are just reiterating your belief without engaging the OP.
  12. Subscriber FMF
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    28 Jul '18 03:13
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    Do you see the words core principles in that statement? Do you see Jesus telling us this
    is how you do it? No, He limited the Way by claiming He was it, only through Him can
    anyone reach the Father.
    Does "reach the Father" mean to have everlasting life?
  13. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    28 Jul '18 03:14
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    [Jesus] limited the Way by claiming He was it...
    What exactly does "way" or "the way" mean?
  14. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    28 Jul '18 03:15
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    ...only through Him can anyone reach the Father.
    What exactly does "through Him" mean in this context?
  15. Standard member KellyJay
    Walk your Faith
    28 Jul '18 03:16
    Originally posted by @fmf
    You should perhaps offer precise definitions of the words in question, otherwise you are just reiterating your belief without engaging the OP.
    I guess we don't see eye to eye, and I'll let you alone and maybe someone else can
    answer these questions since you don't know what they mean I guess.