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-Removed-No assumptions, I have read plenty. I am just making an observation that the topic of rape has garnered so much activity in one day.
In true Christian marriage, 'rape' or moreover the man forcing himself on the wife or vice versa does not exist. The husband loves his wife like Christ loves the church., unconditional love in all aspects.
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Ephesians 5:25-27English Standard Version (ESV)
25 Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, 26 that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word.
I will add this because I think appropriate considering the three of you guys (FMF, Robbie, Divegeester)
Luke 6:45English Standard Version (ESV)
45 The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.
I think FMF a former Christian from what I understand may get this, Robbie a JW most likely gets this, but Divegeester you should no doubt get this...
Consider your witness!. You are engaging in conversation that may on the outside look the defense of Christianity, Christian Marriage, morality... fill in the blank (maybe)... but has turned in to... for lack of a better word... he said she said, show me where I said that. It is like after school antics in the sandbox guys. Do you guys feel you half to elbow your way to some top? Top of what?
In looking through the thread the Proper Knob started, you guys bit in a major way, I don't know if that was the intent, but no doubt some are sitting on the sidelines feverishly putting down the popcorn and soda like they are enjoying an episode of Survivor. Maybe that is what you want maybe it's not.
Forgive me if I have come as an uninvited guest, but I could not let it go. As a Christian chiming in about rape as a Christian Principal or not (or whatever you want to call it) or if there is such a thing. I say again, In true Christian marriage, 'rape' or moreover the man forcing himself on the wife or vice versa does not exist. It is not the basis of love!
Originally posted by Proper Knobrobert is a moron
In another thread Robert made the point based on 'Christian principles' the concept of marital rape is erroneous. There can be no rape within a Christian marriage as consent was given on the day the couple married. Is this a view shared by other Christians here on this forum? Is this mainstream Christian ideology or a stream from the lunatic fringe as I suspect?
Originally posted by yoctobyteNo True Scotsman would ever rape anyone either. 😕
No assumptions, I have read plenty. I am just making an observation that the topic of rape has garnered so much activity in one day.
In true Christian marriage, 'rape' or moreover the man forcing himself on the wife or vice versa does not exist. The husband loves his wife like Christ loves the church., unconditional love in all aspects.
[i][b]edit: ...[text shortened]... the man forcing himself on the wife or vice versa does not exist. It is not the basis of love!
Originally posted by yoctobytehow about a more concise opinion from you:
No assumptions, I have read plenty. I am just making an observation that the topic of rape has garnered so much activity in one day.
In true Christian marriage, 'rape' or moreover the man forcing himself on the wife or vice versa does not exist. The husband loves his wife like Christ loves the church., unconditional love in all aspects.
[i][b]edit: ...[text shortened]... the man forcing himself on the wife or vice versa does not exist. It is not the basis of love!
do you believe that a christian woman has an obligation to provide sex to her christian husband?
Originally posted by ZahlanziI believe that with in the confines of a true Christian marriage it is less about obligation and more about desire and wanting to please one another (each puts the other first). Man an woman satisfy each others needs through sex which is the joining of each others flesh to one another, but it is more than sex... its a joining of spirits. Here is the mystery... the two shall become one.
how about a more concise opinion from you:
do you believe that a christian woman has an obligation to provide sex to her christian husband?
Mark 10:8English Standard Version (ESV)
8 and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh.
do you believe that a christian woman has an obligation to provide sex to her christian husband?
To answer your question... No more than the husband has an obligation to his wife, but never forced.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt was far from a tantrum, more like an epiphany. Why am I using my leisure time to play this bellend at chess?
I need to go to work, before i go i note that both FMF and divesggester have failed to state why remaining morally detached from a position is condoning it despite repeated attempts to make them address the issue, why if consent has been given that it constitutes a rape and why the use of force must be a prerequisite for an act to be constituted as r ...[text shortened]... ance. If anyone else wants to challenge my clan and resign a couple of easy games, let me know.
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Originally posted by Proper Knobit was a tantrum the like of which any five year old child might throw because they are not getting their own way , you still cannot understand a morally and intellectually neutral position and insist still on making matters personal. Yes an insight into your inner workings indeed and some easy clan points as a bonus. Ka-ching!
It was far from a tantrum, more like an epiphany. Why am I using my leisure time to play this bellend at chess?
Originally posted by yoctobyteThank you for a truly edifying post.
No assumptions, I have read plenty. I am just making an observation that the topic of rape has garnered so much activity in one day.
In true Christian marriage, 'rape' or moreover the man forcing himself on the wife or vice versa does not exist. The husband loves his wife like Christ loves the church., unconditional love in all aspects.
[i][b]edit: ...[text shortened]... the man forcing himself on the wife or vice versa does not exist. It is not the basis of love!
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAn insight into my inner workings because I resigned a couple of games of chess? Are you for real? LOL!!! What a wally.
it was a tantrum the like of which any five year old child might throw because they are not getting their own way , you still cannot understand a morally and intellectually neutral position and insist still on making matters personal. Yes an insight into your inner workings indeed and some easy clan points as a bonus. Ka-ching!