Marital Rape

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Your tabloid journalism and sensationalist claims are meaningless to any sentient rational being. I have not taken any stance, I have assumed nothing and why I must be subject to being moralised over by some self righteous pompous windbag is an injustice in itself. I find your posts intellectually stifling and spiritually demeaning

Originally posted by Suzianne
Sorry? What are you going on about?

The day that what robbie says has ANY effect on my Christian belief is the day I sign up for a long stay in an asylum.

Frankly, I can't be bothered with whatever EITHER of you have to say on this, or any subject, because we all know you and he are so busy posturing, trying to look good, that your "arguments", as th ...[text shortened]... THAT finally cease your blathering? Maybe we can avoid another 25 pages of this boring content.

The thread was started by me, do you want to answer my questions contained in the OP? A female take on the topic at hand would be an interesting aside.

Originally posted by Suzianne

Sorry? What are you going on about?

The day that what robbie says has ANY effect on my Christian belief is the day I sign up for a long stay in an asylum.

Frankly, I can't be bothered with whatever EITHER of you have to say on this, or any subject, because we all know you and he are so busy posturing, trying to look good, that your "arguments", as they could be called, I guess, get left behind.

This isn't a discussion. This is a personal forum for two huge egos that can't just simply shut up for five minutes about ANYthing.

I tell you what. What if we say "You win!"? Would THAT finally cease your blathering? Maybe we can avoid another 25 pages of this boring content.

Do you think that what Christian scripture says means that there can be no such thing as marital rape?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
[The other RHP Christians] are all too wussy, their faith watered down with secular liberalism like suzzianne and zhalanzi, or simply cobbled together with super glue and elasto-plast like divesjeester, or some crazy southern snake dancing of Hinds or the win a play station 4 if you come to church on Sunday of KellyJay or the Jesus in me jive talk of Jaywill, not a spiritual back bone among them, weak and wimpy.

So while you are steadfastly unwilling to take any recognizable moral stance on rape in marriage in public, you are however suggesting here that the stance on rape that you have taken, such as it is, demonstrates "spiritual back bone", on your part, of a kind that other Christians don't have?

Originally posted by FMF
So while you are steadfastly unwilling to take any recognizable moral stance on rape in marriage in public, you are however suggesting here that the stance on rape that you have taken, such as it is, demonstrates "spiritual back bone", on your part, of a kind that other Christians don't have?

You cannot be trusted with anything can you. My stance here demonstrates a willingness to engage in objective debate on potentially sensitive and emotive issues without moralising over anyone. This approach to intellectually detatch oneself and simply examine an issue and its related elements without assuming anything has been met with the utmost prejudice, with repeated attempts at misrepresentation and the intellectually stifling practice on the part of some users to make the debate personal. Rejecting all of these nefarious machinations takes backbone for the easy option is simply to take a moral stance and denounce all those who oppose it.

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What you find astonishing is irrelevant. I find your propensity to reduce every dabate you enter to a personal level intellectually stifling and your willingness to moralise over other people who are content to simply engage in objective debate and remain morally detached a reflection of a selfrightous pomposity and an intellect that is essentially dead.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
You cannot be trusted with anything can you. My stance here demonstrates a willingness to engage in objective debate on potentially sensitive and emotive issues without moralising over anyone. This approach to intellectually detatch oneself and simply examine an issue and its related elements without assuming anything has been met with the utmost p ...[text shortened]... kbone for the easy option is simply to take a moral stance and denounce all those who oppose it.

Why would one want to "intellectually detach oneself" from the immorality of rape?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
What you find astonishing is irrelevant. I find your propensity to reduce every dabate you enter to a personal level intellectually stifling and your willingness to moralise over other people who are content to simply engage in objective debate and remain morally detached a reflection of a selfrightous pomposity and an intellect that is essentially dead.

Why are you attacking divegeester instead of agreeing with him in condemning men who force their wives to have sex against their will?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
You cannot be trusted with anything can you. My stance here demonstrates a willingness to engage in objective debate on potentially sensitive and emotive issues without moralising over anyone.

Why don't you want to moralize over rapists?

Originally posted by FMF
Why would one want to "intellectually detach oneself" from the immorality of rape?

Has anyone stated as you put it to 'have detached themselves intellectually from the immorality of rape', for try as i might i cannot find a single instance where this has been stated, can you produce the statement?

Originally posted by FMF
Why don't you want to moralize over rapists?

I am not interested in moralizing over anyone, i am interested in objective debate.

Originally posted by FMF
Why are you attacking divegeester instead of agreeing with him in condemning men who force their wives to have sex against their will?

I find your and divesgeesters propensity for reducing every thread that you enter to a personal level intellectually stifling and all attempts to reduce threads to a personal level will simply be ignored and perhaps then you will be forced to change your modus operandi and instead of relying on dirty tricks like loaded questions, false dichotomy, misrepresentation etc etc you will be forced to engage in actual objective debate, thats why his questions are being ignored.