Originally posted by SuzianneWow. Talk about biased. I would take the word of a scholarly atheist over any christians word on which is more accurate... christians bring too much bias.
Bwahahahahaha!
You think it's all hooey anyways, so we should take YOUR word on what translation is "more accurate"?
I don't think so.
Originally posted by galveston75Exactly...He was made in the "image" of God..Heb 1:3-4
Thank you for your insight. It seems hard to understand why they think it is so but I do somewhat understand the confusion they have.
If I were to walk into a room and say, "If you see me, you've seen my Father" it really wouldn't make much sence unless the ones in the room stopped and thought about it and came to the obvious conclusion that I'm like m ...[text shortened]... es it sound like it could be so, even though that teaching is clearly not in the Bible.
( The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. 4 So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.
NIV)
Not to mention the logical things like, how can God die? And if so, who raised Him from the dead? Or verses that say "God is not a man that He should lie" Jesus was a man. To exalt Jesus to God is a sad mistake and shames Him and God. If Jesus is God, His suffering comes into question. He was a man and suffered immensely for my sins and yours. This I could identify with. If He is God, I could not identify with His suffering. This Trinitarian doctrine demeans our Lord and His Father. I understand that people can not understand, other than what they are taught, but it is still sad.
Originally posted by checkbaiterWhat if - as galeveston75 says - Jesus is a Mighty God? If He were a God, could you identify with His suffering?
If Jesus is God, His suffering comes into question. He was a man and suffered immensely for my sins and yours. This I could identify with. If He is God, I could not identify with His suffering.
Originally posted by FMFMighty God is simply a reference of nobility. Many people were called God and Lord...
What if - as galeveston75 says - Jesus is a Mighty God? If He were a God, could you identify with His suffering?
If as they say, He is God, no I could not identify with His suffering. It is also illogical according to the bible. There were many "types" of Christ in the old testament. One of my favorites is Joseph in Genesis. If you will notice in the following verses, he was given all authority and was given the signet ring. But in regard to the throne, Pharaoh would be greater..
Gen 41:39-45
Then Pharaoh said to Joseph, "Inasmuch as God has shown you all this, there is no one as discerning and wise as you. 40 You shall be over my house, and all my people shall be ruled according to your word; only in regard to the throne will I be greater than you." 41 And Pharaoh said to Joseph, "See, I have set you over all the land of Egypt."
42 Then Pharaoh took his signet ring off his hand and put it on Joseph's hand; and he clothed him in garments of fine linen and put a gold chain around his neck. 43 And he had him ride in the second chariot which he had; and they cried out before him, "Bow the knee!" So he set him over all the land of Egypt. 44 Pharaoh also said to Joseph, "I am Pharaoh, and without your consent no man may lift his hand or foot in all the land of Egypt."
NKJV
Originally posted by FMFMighty God is simply a reference of nobility. Many people were called God and Lord...
What if - as galeveston75 says - Jesus is a Mighty God? If He were a God, could you identify with His suffering?
If as they say, He is God, no I could not identify with His suffering. It is also illogical according to the bible. There were many "types" of Christ in the old testament. One of my favorites is Joseph in Genesis. If you will notice in the following verses, he was given all authority and was given the signet ring. But in regard to the throne, Pharaoh would be greater..
Gen 41:39-45
Then Pharaoh said to Joseph, "Inasmuch as God has shown you all this, there is no one as discerning and wise as you. 40 You shall be over my house, and all my people shall be ruled according to your word; only in regard to the throne will I be greater than you." 41 And Pharaoh said to Joseph, "See, I have set you over all the land of Egypt."
42 Then Pharaoh took his signet ring off his hand and put it on Joseph's hand; and he clothed him in garments of fine linen and put a gold chain around his neck. 43 And he had him ride in the second chariot which he had; and they cried out before him, "Bow the knee!" So he set him over all the land of Egypt. 44 Pharaoh also said to Joseph, "I am Pharaoh, and without your consent no man may lift his hand or foot in all the land of Egypt."
NKJV